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I have a special favor to ask you. And if you say “yes,” this could be great fun AND help you make money in the weeks ahead.
Last week, I asked you to jump over to my personal blog to answer two, simple questions …
Question #1: How are YOU deciding whether you’ll invest in (1) domestic and foreign stocks, (2) gold bullion and other precious metals, (3) energy and natural resources, (4) foreign currencies and/or (5) bonds in 2010?
Question #2: How do you know how much of your money to invest in each area?
Ever since, we’ve been getting great investment insights as our readers weigh in on these two all-important questions. Plus, I’ve also jumped in personally to add my responses and thoughts on the blog.
But the answer our readers have posted most often will probably surprise you:
The largest number of our readers decide which asset classes they want to own — and how much money to invest in each — mostly by sheer instinct!
Dr. S.W.B. says, “My investment decisions and percentage allocations come from a combined alignment of my head and gut, with a strong emphasis on self preservation through diversification.
“Only when I feel a convincing internal ‘Go Ahead’ do I move into an investment position and move out quickly when new conditions or information places that investment in doubt.”
Bob M. says, “I’m not sure how I know how much to place in each area other than a ‘feel’ for which areas provide me with the most defensive position while trying to gain some income and spread risk.”
David M. comments, “I don’t allocate percentages, although I ‘feel’ percentages by what is going on.”
John P. adds: “I really don’t have a methodology when it comes to asset allocation. Unfortunately, I think I follow the crowd too much.”
Rehler says: “I follow gut feelings for my investment decisions.”
Bob L. puts it this way: “Reading through some of the comments I realize I have not done a very good job of analyzing the allocation of my investments and will immediately undertake the task.”
Hartmut R. concludes, “I really have no system. I am anxious to hear of a way to invest systematically and rationally.”
So why are so many otherwise sophisticated investors merely feeling their way through the portfolio-building minefield?
My guess is that it’s because no one has provided a reliable way to know which investments are best suited to the current environment — let alone how much of their money they should invest in each!
That’s more than surprising. It’s a bit frightening when you think about it: If you’re among them, you could wind up owning too few of the assets most likely to rocket higher and too many of those likely to decline in value …
Or worse: You could find yourself owning all of the wrong assets for the current environment and none of the right ones!
So now, here’s what I need your help with: Your answer to today’s question of the day. Just click here and use the comments area to give me your answer to this:
How do you think mutual fund money managers and Wall Street brokers and pros make these all-important decisions?
Are they just guessing? Shooting blind? Or do they have tested, reliable ways to structure portfolios that truly do minimize your risk while maximizing profit potential?
In the next few days, I’ll be reading my blog and commenting on your blog posts. Then, next week, I’ll send out a follow-up email with my own thoughts on how to build the optimal portfolio for the year ahead.
Best wishes,
Larry
P.S. Due to overwhelming response here on my blog, I cannot personally respond to each and every one of your comments. However, I’ve recruited two of our best analysts, Amber Dakar and Mandeep Singh Rai, to help me reply to your postings.
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I think too many Wall Street insiders are exactly that — insiders, operating with too much foreknowlege due to deliberate manipulations by those who make money when stock goes in either direction. What I find so infuriating is that the average American investors (Jack and Jill with their 401(k) plans) are so clueless, and so manipulated, and the targets and victims of predators completely out of their league. Theft and deception is the name of the game. People are slowing awakening and wising up. The financial system is not only sick, but dying, and will bite the dust. At this point I just stay out of the paper and digital games, and only buy physical product precious metal and store it in locations I control.
Larry Edelson Reply:
January 22nd, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Dear Elizabeth,
You’re absolutely right, there is no doubt lots of insider info Wall Street uses to their advantage. But they’re also obviously, not smart enough to use their strategic advantages to time their investments (and the ones they pitch to the public), accurately enough. If they were, they would have avoided the real estate meltdown!
My view is that Wall Street itself gets all too caught up in crowd behavior, and very often, cannot see the forest from the trees. So they are doomed to getting the major turns in markets and the economy, wrong. The key to successful investing is to use the history of the markets and its various sectors – they are full of objective lessons to be learned! – Larry
Larry,
My opinion isn’t worth much, but here it is:
1) Fund managers and the like must know something but so many of them are so wrong most of the time that what they know doesn’t amount to much.
2) Their jobs and reputations depend more on not getting it wrong than getting it right, and their bosses demand instant and constant results so that they are stuck in the short term. Strange when their advice to clients is usually “Buy and hold.”
3) There are lots of people who have been, Gann, and are, Buffett, successful investors and traders.
Gann wrote a book about his methods and proved they worked. I believe Buffett says very little about how he does it, but he does it convincingly. I think it’s called talent, and some of us have it in spades, in all sorts of fields, concert hall, sports, or market.
4) I would put my money, if I had any, on numbers and patterns.
Dennis Healey
Larry Edelson Reply:
January 22nd, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Dear Dennis,
I agree – despite many attempts at reform, even the current ones – Wall Street remains as biased an industry as there is, and full of conflicts of interest. The street is largely driven by here and today, by the commissions they can generate, the profits they can garner short-term – and all at the expense of the public.
As you note, and I express to Elizabeth above — The key to successful investing is to use the history of the markets and its various sectors – they are full of objective lessons to be learned! — Larry
I think their hands are partially tied by the mutual fund’s requirements to be x% invested in certain stocks (e.g. large cap, growth, etc based on the fund definition), preventing them from moving into cash during obvious bear market conditions. Risk avoidance is not part of their M.O. as evidenced by them continuing to buy and issue buy reco’swhen the market tanked early last year. Given the overall poor performance of the funds in 2008, I would have to say they’re all pretty much following the crowd and the funds rise and fall close to the major indices in general. As anecdotal proof of this, a friend of mine quit his job as a youth pastor, joined J.D. Edwards as a financial consultant with no experience, and after 6 mos. training was certified as a financial adviser with that company. Rather scary.
Larry Edelson Reply:
January 22nd, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Dear Steve,
Yes indeed, Wall Street is all about risk, the problem being, they risk “OPM” – Other People’s Money! How can we change that? My view is that part of regulatory reform should be to require a certain level of education for brokers and financial advisors that bases itself upon a rigorous study of the history of markets, economies, and past financial crises. There is none of that on Wall Street. Ask your friend, trained for just 6 months before becoming a financial advisor for J.D Edwards. Ask him what he knows of the Panic of 1907 … the Great Depression … the origins of the Federal Reserve – and even the recent tech wreck or real estate and mortgage bust. With all due respect, if he knows anything about them he is likely self-taught, and a very rare person. — Larry
Larry–
I have a degree in Economics plus some graduate work, so that may give me a slight advantage when looking at trends in the economy and market sectors. Of course I may as well be overconfident in my own ability as contrasted to the “pros” who do in-depth analysis and pick stocks for the mutual funds.
Being retired (since age 51, now 70!) I am extremely cautious with my investments. A person with limited means has to carefully weigh the risk/reward balance. I think that most fund managers are slightly more aggressive than I am comfortable with, although most do a creditable job for their investors. I would rather go with the fund that has shown solid performance over many years than a hotshot fund that varies widely in performance, posting a loss one term and a 60% gain the next.
As to your specific question, I think that the great majority of fund managers do take their fiduciary responsibility seriously, but the depth and accuracy of analysis between funds varies widely. I doubt seriously if any fund manager goes strictly by gut feel. Of course, there will always be those slimy individuals and companies which treat the investors’ funds as their private piggy bank and manipulate funds so as to generate the largest commissions possible, regardless of the best interest or risk tolerance of the client.
It all boils down to getting a trustworthy fund manager within your risk tolerance framework, then watching him like a hawk!
Larry Edelson Reply:
January 22nd, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Dear Rob,
Kudos to you for using your educational background in your investments and taking control of them! I think Wall Street is conditioned to perform poorly for two major reasons …
A. The short-sighted need to generate commissions every day
B. A very serious lack of education in the history of markets, market panics, and overall macro economics. — Larry
I think Wall Street is just as confused as the rest of us. They would lead you to believe they employ modern portfolio theory and allocations - but their decisions are driven by their bottom line - which is very seldom the individual investor’s bottom line.
This question is timely because I am trying to decide whether to hire an investment manager. The hype is that they are unemotional and have vast amounts of backroom research to follow all the trends in the various asset classes and interest rates. This is still a version of “we can beat the market”. Your questions in these blogs - point to the underlying questions most investors now have - what is the “market” - is buy and hold still a viable strategy - who can I trust with reliable advice - etc.
Thanks for making us think thru all this.
Larry Edelson Reply:
January 22nd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Dear Lynn,
Right on! Their decisions are all too often driven by their bottom line, not yours! The biggest problem: A lack of education in the history of the markets, in the real patterns that give birth to market movements, and what I call “linear thinking”. Today’s world is too complex for linear thinking. One must think dynamically, and question everything with a scientific and historical rigor. Otherwise, as the saying goes, one is doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past. — Larry
Larry
I would like to make another comment on the subject of inflation. I have definitely noticed increases in our daily living expenses. At the same time I have added Inflation Protection Mutual Funds to my investments but recently I see nothing more then a sideways movement. Do you have any opinions on this type of investment ast the present time.
Larry Edelson Reply:
January 27th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
If they are designed to match or slightly outperform the government’s stats, they will end up underperforming the true loss of purchasing power you will experience with your dollars. — Larry
Larry,
I must be dummer that a box of rocks but could you explain “Asset Inflation” or re-inflation a little more clearly because I still don’t get it. I would like to get a handle on it.
Thanks
Wil
Larry Edelson Reply:
January 27th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Prices are effectively pushed back up, because you have an infinite number of dollars chasing a finite supply of goods. But not all assets will re-inflate at the same rate. Others will inflate more quickly; still others wil lag, like real estate. — Larry
i think you have it exactly right about inflation….price inflation in the past 18months is very marked. I’m in england, and our supermarkets have had no shame about price increases of 50 to 100% for many basic foodstuffs. The basic cheap foods are what is being targeted.You would imagine our politicians never visit a supermarket. The CPI/RPI is, as you say manipulated….in a cynical and deliberate fashion. I don’t know if these politicians are convinced by their own propaganda, or indeed if it is bad thing if they are.
Where I think you are less accurate, at least as far as the UK is concerned, is that wages and pensions are being held down while prices soar in a steady fashion…..all this amounts to a transfer of resources from the average wage earner, pensioner, and increasing number of unemployed people, towards compensation for their losses for the poor bankers, financiers and corporate owners who benefit from the system that has caused this chaos. And who effectively own the Governments of whatever political colour.
And you don’t need a nobel prize in economics to know that printing fiat money causes inflation.
Larry Edelson Reply:
January 27th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Agreed Richard. I also agree on wages, no inflation there – yet. — Larry
With asset re-inflation does that mean that real estate will reach its high values again and will it take quite a few years if so?
Larry Edelson Reply:
January 27th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
Rise again, yes. Reach its previous highs in terms of purchasing power, not in my lifetime. Pehaps in my children’s, I hope! — Larry
I think they go by their gut, a lot also. Look at the so called professionals in 2009, they lost money just like everyone. Indexes beat them most of the time. For some of my money I like to bet on the total market and it is a lot less expensive. i am also looking for income and dividends,
I’m convinced that MF mgrs follow the trend with an eye on simply beating the bogey be that the S&P or whatever. Having been a broker for many years, these people don’t have a clue. Just do “something” to generate commissions.
Funds, banks, the fed- I think they disregard fundamentals. Just physically moving funds where it serves their selfish objectives. Nothing else matters.
I read several different publications and web posting daily. When the name of an issue is recommended more than once I run it down to see if I might be interested. I try to keep my portfolio balanced at 50% equities, 40% fixed and 10% cash and/or bullion. I also diversify through stock selection and international and domestic investments. If an investment goes down by 8% it is sold.
I think the Wall Street managers are using research, networking and what will make them look good in the short-term. After all, they have to make a living too. I sold all of my mutal funds in Dec 2009 and now in cash, 100 shares of GLD & SLV. I just purchased gold bullion as part of my IRA and now look to resource based stocks with dividends for investment. Today, after China started to tighten the banking system and Obama lost his grip on power with one Senate seat in Mass., we may have seen the begining of the double dip. I am tracking Larry’s stock recos with an entry point below 200d MA. Thanks for the uncommon wisdom and changing the wau I look at investing.
I would have to say that I do some research and watch the managers and look for consensus - in some cases I will invest against consensus and sometimes with. I look at various asset classes and depending upon the market, timing, news, events - helps me determine which classes to be in.
I generally tend to follow the leading sectors such as commodities — especially precious metals.
I also review articles by commentators such as yourself for leads.
Lately I have been researching for investment in pipelines (natural gas/oil) as I understand these people earn money even in diffficult times.
BTW I enjoy reading your articles. You come through as being quite sincere besides being knowledgeable. I intend to be a paid subscriber soon.
Thanks — and keep up the good work
There is no doubt that there is a herd mentality among MF managers, WS brokers and pros, driven by “I can’t be left behind or I’ll get axed!” thinking. However, the large shops do have competent economists and analysts suggesting courses of action. Hopefully, they are all striving to make money for their clients, but greed drives them more than compassion, I believe.
Every newsletter spouts “We have the best system!” But I have yet to find any system that can measure the emotions of the market. Those who profess to use tried and true financial yardsticks including positive cash flow and earnings are worth following. The rest are simply trying to get rich off gullible investors with BOLD PRINT and unbelievable gains.
Don’t trust anyone in the financial areas of the USA — I had my IRA stolen by a crooked stock broker — turned him into the SEC and they froze his assets business and personal until I believe he made a donation to the George Bush reelection campaign 2005. Miraculously he was left off the hook! My IRA which was supposed to be about $100,000 was sold for a totalof $3800 when I was 70 and 1/2. Me trust the government? You’ve got to be kidding. Me trust the dollar? You’ve got to be kidding. Go to physical gold and silver and only let your family know where it is. Trust financial advisors? You know my answer to that one!!! Good luck to everyone who trusts any politician’s promises.
One would think they did the research necessary to understand the “business models” they purchase, but based on the fall of 2008, most knew little and the research engines used did not see it coming. My exposure to “financial advisors”, they are little more than order takers, with old school direction provided by the corporate gurus. No thinking outside the box, buy and hold is the only answer but make sure the allocations comply with some theory that worked 25 years ago…jc
Mutual fund managers have a tried and truue program to use. Whearas the wall street brokers go where they can make t the most bucks. They are a different breed
I think Larry is one of the gifted persons on earth, situated in one of the best asian locations, Bangkok,,,, lets start from his simplicity, by telling us the Thai people are now reluctant to accept dollars, we can feel it depreciate day by day, Larry is the expert of the bullion so his idea can tell the dollar devalues, the gold value revalues, Larry’s expertise can tell some of the asian currencies are linked with the US Dollar, the pegging system will make solid investments, so he can tell his readers to put some in the asian markets, Larry’s colleagues know this so they can do a reasearch and play the far east market, Larry turns gold from 300 to 1200 and keeps saying gold is good and goes to 2500 well 1500 1800 2000 then to 2500 us dollars per ounze,
That makes the 1980 high of the 850 gold worth at least 2300 plus in todays real world,.
Am I repeating Larry/s words, no, I have been educated by Larrys good words to protect my devaluing dollars, and place in other safe havens, gold and the asian market, no doubt Larry and his team is the best, I am a long term patient now also based in Asia, and God has created Dr. Weiss and his team to lead us to our investments, at least to be on the safe side and at least be protective of our Devaluing Buckaroooos..,
What I have seen on television is the China uses NDF< a product called non deliverable fwd to agree on various exchange rates, they have been forced to revalue the yuan, but they have a hidden weapon above the ( N.D.F) to mix and match the exporters needs and the exchange rates,
therefore China will be linked as closely to the Hongkong dollar, which is almost unchanged, but due to this the asset valuations in the far east have been rising with all the money printed by the US< it has given a escape for HK to revalue the prices, and keep the housing prices high, that also means if real esate is high, the economy can be inflated and thus the more the stimulus printing is created the bigger the estate prices in Hongkong, which will make the stock market in hongkong and China a easy money for the locals, while the US Dollars enjoy the fixed rates in Hongkong too.
Monitoring this Larry is again on the right side of the world guiding us in his colums togther with the Weiss colleagues, Larry god bless ya, keep up the goood work up and keep telling us what is best, you are one of the best so we know we are following Weiss, thanks with lots of love, Id like to meet up with you in Bangkok in the skyview bar one day, for a drink or two and be friends,
best regards to all…… Daniel
Most know little, research engines are out of date, they are little more than order takers with old school direction by corp. Buy & Hold with “proper” asset allocation and the company wins, investor does not
Personally, I use Bible prophecy. You see all of the signs say we are close to the events that will occur in Revelation. I know that the dollar will be destroyed and a new currency is coming. I believe that 2010 is the year that the dollar will collapse(my speculation only). I put 100% of my liquid assets in gold and silver. The Bible talks about China being a super power, they are buying gold and silver. Funny, the Bible doesn’t talk about America. So, even if these events are 100 years away, the money system is going to change and “no one will be able to buy or sell unless you are part of the system” unless you own gold and silver which has real value.
Read a lot, newspapers, websites, books, blogs but more than not i follow the inner voice (my gut).
I invest exclusively in country and commodity ETFs. Domestically all investments are in commodities. All other investments are in BIC (No Russia) and MAVIN countries that meet the following requirements.
Natural or human resource wealth.
Countries that are either Cheap or identifiably smart…preferably both.
A low market PEG ratio. Brazil, India, Singapore.
In relative terms a stable government that is not woefully corrupt. Chile, Brazil, Singapore, Canada.
A manageable National Debt Burden.
A low base that allows for rapid increases in Domestic consumer demand. Most emerging markets meet this requirement.
NOTE THE U.S doesn’t meet most of the above requirements..
I never invest on GUT FEEL, or rumor, I research first and then use only Technical Analysis to determine entry and exit.
At this juncture the allocation is 100% stocks or Cash….no bonds as eventually rates must rise and Bonds could be the next bubble.
Larry,
I’ll keep it simple. I believe managers devise a model they think will work and then make an educated guess.
Scott
I have a tremendous distrust for Mutual Funds in general due to their structure which generates commissions for activity. I am a real estate developer that has an aligned interest with my partners by having skin in the game. I think that is the only way to allow human nature to run its course to the benefit of all involved. I am sure that the MF’s have an enormous amount of information to analyze in their decision process but it is their gut that should make the final decision on their next move, especially if their money is on the line.
I think its imporant to diversify investments. Its fascinating to witness all the noise from people who “pump” a single stock or a particular sector or industry. Every bubble that’s created by the hyperbole of irrational exuberance (to use a tired term), is eventually burst, and then its back to a more fundamental approach.
My strategy is to pay close attention to the fundamentals of the companies, sectors, and indusries that one invests in. Perhaps its a more conservaive approach than others take, but you cant argue with financially sound balance sheets and companies that continue to execute on their plans, hit their numbers and consistently pay dividends to share holders. Thats the hidden and true value of a stock in my view. All the rest is just riding on dumb luck of a pumped up and over inflated valuation of a stock or fund.
I do find the Uncommon Wisdom writings to be insightful, but at times it seems a litte over-the-top in their attack on the dollar and the pumping of gold, all but dismissing US domestc investment opportunities like they are relics from a different age. I personally would like to see some positive push for some of the more healthy companies in the US instead of always pushing China china china or gold gold gold. Dont get me wrong I think part of a portfolio should be international, and China’s probably a good choice. As is some natural resources.
Well, i’m kind of new at investing, so maybe I’m clueless. If you’re new like me, start small, diversify, and GO LONG. Dont try to make the fast buck. Investing is a multi-year strategy, wih different goals to achieve for 1, 3, 5 and 10 years. The folk lore of making it big by day trading is a slippery slope.
Cheers.
I don’t have a clue. I did really good on Ford Stock but that was a shot in the dark. I have BA Boeing stock in my 401K and I would like to transfer it out of Boeings hands so I can invest in something else.
I am choosing foreign stocks over domestic unless I’m shorting, and my opinion is that the time is right to sell off gold since I bought some of it in 2003 at the beginning of the war. I think energy and natural resources are a good hedge against inflation. I don’t play with foreign currencies. I stay away from bonds since I am more aggressive than conservative. As far as cutting these investment choices up into little pieces,I use a basic approach of fundamental analysis or what’s emotional mixed with some probability theory.
hi larry, personally i think wall street is all joined at the hip and they work together to screw the small investor. there are just too many little loopholes to their advantage. i think that’s why many investors are on the sidelines. capitalistic and democratic—ha!
I usually decide from the reports I read and suscribe to. I never allocate more than I am willing to lose and only a percentage of my total portfolio. With trailing stops.
Ive Started investing right at the “hype” of 1999, i never imagine a mutual fund going up 90%in six months, i was 15 then now I am 25, I love watching and learning the markets, after looking at cnbc for everday for 10 years, (bloomberg too), I noticed Lots of things are built on hype, or what is working at the time, These guys get paid boookoo bucks, and personally i dont think most of them are half as good, i think alot of it is just a few grand masters of the works telling thier “top guys” to build possitions in whatever, they are wanting to push up, but on the other hand, yes there are many ways to make money in these markets always has and probly always will, i was told not to worrie about the dow15k or 10k or, Because I will see Dow 50K, in time, I like China and i believe its there turn for the great expansion and wealth building just like he have had, You see when Obama was talking about “spreading the wealth”, at first it sounded all good, (rich man give to poor man)….you see…, what he really meant by “spread the wealth” it was about giving other countries the opprotunity to build and make great things, but the catch is yes we are going to do it the “american way” just not in our home anymore its about “world” now. I look at history and how americans did it before and put that into perspective on how other countries have to do it in order to “catch up”, notice how you will soon have Short selling in china>? its about the money power, and i dont think china is going to crash anytime soon. Good luck to all and thanks to everyone at Uncommon Wisdom for the very insightfull information I really enjoy it.
Jonathan Peterson
Dear Larry,
I have been reading your reports for months. Based on your information and at present, I have invested in Gold approximately $9,000.00 in coins pre 1933. I’m not really interested in the pneumatic features but that it is none- confiscatable gold whereas bullion and Eagles, Krugerrands, & Maple Leafs are. I don’t trust our gov. when 2012 comes and perhaps new script issued to replace the dollar the IMF may very well demand gold from it’s members to back up the new money.. As long as we have our Constitution (which Obama is trying to destroy) congress passed series of protective laws for collectors and investors of gold prior to 1933. (Aug. 15, 1974, 1954 amendment) I’m considering more Gold purchase. Also, I took your advice on Silver and have $2,500.00 in Silver Dollars. 1 oz pure silver coins. You have advised Gold Bullion etc. but as mentioned above I am nervous about our gov. heavy hand and we could loose our investment overnight. Your thoughts are appreciated.
Chinese Stocks, I noted that W. Buffet invested 230 m in BYD Electric Car Co.. he must have faith in that company. I’m considering buying. Follow the money !
I’m a small investor, but want to protect myself against the impending situation which most Americans just don’t get and the gravity of impending monetary catastrophe.
Dear Larry;
In light of our current situation: (Ie. all time” world record” national debt, extraordinary production of paper “money” without gold backing, VERY low savings rate by our citizens, an administration -ideology- after 40 + years of big gov./socialist propaganda on campus and via much of the media now find themselves in a position of total power, are now making their move to transform this once great nation into a socialist state, a logical follow through of the 60’s revolution. I spent almost 40 years in academia, where much of this insanity comes from. I only wish I was exaggerating! What a nightmare, that will confront our children and grandchildren). Having said all this, it makes, great tragic, sense to me, that Very strong inflation, severe reduction in the purchasing power of the US Dollar (the savings of the people) is inevitable in conjunction with a historic transformation of power leaving the east and heading toward Asia and the west. I believe in the unique greatness of America and its founders and so, I still have faith that we will: Take back our country!.
Ok, back to investments. Virtually, all my retirement funds are in, directly or indirectly in Asia, particularly, China, mostly commodities. I feel volnerable. Can you help?
Natural resources such as gold, metals and oil/energy have a cycle of demand and supply. With respect to foreign stocks their value depends on the world economy and which translates into value in $ terms.
Since the US is exporting wealth at an ever increasing rate by living above it’s means and the inability to source natural resources from within due to legislative measures that have effectively strangle ( time and money) bringing new resources to market it is not unreasonable that the value of the US $ will decrease significantly over the next five to ten years.
Combine the above scenarios and there is long term value in overseas stocks and also in commodities such as oil and gas. Gold tends to be cyclical but it’s long term trend will be up due to the decrease in value of the US dollar.
Granted, MF Managers have the restrictions/mandates of the Funds objective guiding and restricting the investment of funds , past that they really have no idea what are the better investments within their guidelines to choose. Their true investment assessment of their investment decision-making abilities are cloaked by diversification inherent to MF’s and the investor is of course the recipient of the protection of diversification, although it seems there was is more to be had from attentive and active management that should be expected for the MF manager that is collecting nice fees for his “expertise”.
1) For my long positions, I buy ADR’s or on foreign exchanges with approx. 33% Asia, 40% South America, 10% Europe, and 17% US. For my short positions I am all in US. I believe that we are in a sucker rally and earnings are going to start killing the US market. I have about 25% of my portfolio in gold and silver bullion stored overseas. My long positions are distributed in Mining, Petroleum, Utilities, and Consumer. I am not into trading currencies as I do not have the knowledge. Bonds are not giving any return worth mentioning now so I am out of the bond market.
2) I follow world events and world markets and adjust my allocations depending on events. Bullion at 25% is a long term hold. Right now I am about 1/3 in equities and the balance in cash. I am keeping a larger than normal cash position waiting on a market crash to get back in.
3) I am not high on managers and prefer to do my own work. I think they like to snow clients with charts and buzz words that they really don’t understand to churn commissions. When it comes to protecting their clients, their company, or their commissions they protect them in inverse order. Anyone who will not put in the time to research and manage their investments are fair game to the mutual fund salesmen.
I believe that the MF managers watch general trends in the way the market is moving, they call on past experiences but also that given “gut level” feeling that makes them comfortable with their recommendations. They also watch what the Fed. is doing, trying to learn how folks there want to push the economy and how they are planning to do it. But down deep, there has to be the “gut level” Ok to make a decision to move in a given way. It is no different that a boxer, football player, race car driver, gambler or anyone else who “lives on the edge”, they have a “natural gut level feeling” they trust to make certain moves.
I believe they use a system, albeit flawed. The brokers make money off of the investers regardless of performance.
I had several thousand dollars in mutual funds in the 1990’s, I didn’t like the stock market situation, I believed it was well over valued. I took my money out. I guessed right, the markets corrected themselves. Two years ago, I took every penny of my investments out and bought CD’s, believing that once again, the market was overvalued. Once again I guessed right.
Everyone said whoa don’t be a fool. I wasn’t, I sold my assets at their peak value, that’s how you make money.
I reinvested modestly in the market, when the DOW dipped below 7,000(I had predicted publicly on 580AM radio in Topeka KS, that it would bottom out at 7354, I was almost a thousand high. I also valued the markets worth at between 9200 and 10200. Which I believe to be accurate. That means that now is still a good time to invest because it goes up and down. But I have invested all I plan to in the market, until I believe it has peaked again. That’s where I am at. I won’t day trade or play the other games. Unless I find a particular product, that I truly believe in. Which at this time is simply myself.
Spred the risk! I never invest more than 10% of my assets in any one place. That incudes any given sector of a market. Think “Over-weight / Under Weight” when allocating. Money can be made in up, down, or sideways markets, but the market has to have a CLEAR direction. The clearer the signals the easier it is to accept some risk. Look at the macroeconomics then drill down to the individual investment. It’s tough to make money on an investment that’s moving contrary to the market. And as always “Limit your losses.” Trailing stops are the best invention since the creation of compounded interest.
The “professional approach” to asset allocation probably takes 2 different courses depending upon the brokers situation. If it is a house broker “managing” individual accounts, although there may be a lot of technical analysis or what have you, their approach is likely to be more of a “seat of the pants” approach within the limits of what the “house” is holding and recommending. In a nutshell, gut driven, speculative, and very hit and miss. Certainly if not the primary goal, this behavior is designed to generate commissions and hopefully a profit so the broker can continue to have clients. If a fund manager, where the management fees are “fixed relative to the assets under management” a more prudent percentage allocation model is likely to be followed within certain limits and the charter of the fund. This approach is more of a status quo model designed to run with the average “pack” whether good or bad. You will rarely encounter large gains or losses that are off the bell curve. When the tide comes in, all boats will rise, but when it retreats, so do the rewards. In my opinion, both of these approaches really don’t do any asset class allocation as their focus is really on one class of assets regardless of the “mix”, namely paper assets.
I read a lot of articles and listen to lots of interviews with experts (like you). But at the end of the day, i have to make up my own mind. I have decided that, I am a long term investor not a day trader, so i don’t try to time the market, rather am mainly concerned with the long term trends. Accordingly, as I see hyperinflation in our future, I have invested (and continue to invest) heavy into physical gold and silver. I do own some mining, agricultural and asian stocks too, but am mostly into the physical metals. I hear people say i should diversify, but i prefer to focus. Basically i am “all in”.
I try to invest ~75% of my money in top 5 sectors of the markests, information generally obtained from a newspaper like Investor’s business daily. Remaining 25% in special situations, like specific companies which are good turnaround candidadtes, or new issues, or high dividend plays, etc.
I am just getting started with personally directed investments. Right now, I am looking at charts, but prefer working with some who knows what they are doing and I can trust. I believe investing in indiividual stocks will take too much time, so I am looking at mutual funds. But who is an expert with mutual funds?
There’s a lot (!) of cynicism out there.
My experience is that most Mutual Fund Managers use Statistical Analysis and Forcasting
software to try to predict the direction of a Fund, a Stock or the market in general.
Wall Street brokers are something different. I think as I see on CNBC they hype the stock
or sector that they are pushing.
Question number 1. I’ll invest in gold and silver.
Question number 2. In the investment to acquire gold and silver I vlazhivat 50% of my money.
I have found all sorts of individuals providing brokerage services. Some like you and your associates are clearly well informed and provide very useful industry insights, others are phony as a three dollar bill. Good sense tells me who the phonies are and I ignore them. Those who are clearly knowledgable guide me to successes; this is a very short list of individuals. With time the phonies are exposed by their own inepness. The process works well for me so far, with one refinement. When I’m unsure I may risk a very small amount of money to test the water so to speak; once I’m convinced that the individual/group is indeed knowledgable then I’ll make sizeable purchases.
My personal answer to your #1 & #2 questions today:
#1 Managers, brokers and pros: Do (should do) complete analysis, use direct contact with stock Company principals, and have experienced, past knowledge to draw upon.
#2 Should have tested past experience and knowledge to draw upon. Guessing is not an option.
How do you think mutual fund money managers and Wall Street brokers and pros make these all-important decisions?
It is clear that serious money managers use a variety of techniques: charts and “technical analysis”, Dow theory, cycles, Elliot wave theory, leading indicators, sector analysis, contrarian analysis, and analysis of fundamentals. Some are wedded to a single technique, others employ a number of techniques in the hope that some will “confirm” others. I think that most of these techniques yield more or less the same answers in times of entrenched, long-term trends. If you couldn’t make out well in the equities markets in 2007, for instance, you had to be pretty bad at investing. In times of great uncertainty (for instance, now), these techniques may give radically different answers and none of them - including the analysis of fundamentals - seems to be consistently reliable. The reason the analysis of fundamentals is unreliable is that the markets are heavily manipulated in one way or another by big players. Money managers in a position to do so rely less upon analytical techniques than upon trading strategies or devices, some of which are illegal (those who use the illegal ones feel that they are insulated from discovery): flash trading, dark pools, front running, insider trading, rumor mongering and so on. Hedging may be thought of as a kind of global trading strategy. A sound trading method involving analysis combined with stop-loss orders and hedges is probably used by many managers who eschew sharp or illegal business practices and don’t have supercomputers or an army of mathematicians at their disposal. This can also be used by individual investors, but it is time-consuming and requires both research and experience. Those who are primarily brokers are not as interested in real money management as in commissions. There are exceptions, but, as a rule, putting one’s assets into the hands of a broker is a good way to get cleaned out while making the broker rich.
Generally, I dont like mutual funds. Most are just “commission generating vehicles” for novice
investors. A “sector specific” index fund aligned with a “mega trend” has been a good alternative
to mutual funds for me. Also most investors who use mutual funds tend not to try and learn more
about the “art of making money”. As is most things in life, ” little effort, little gain”.
My personal view on the coming “end game” of our current “financial fiasco” is that mutual funds
will become a “wealth graveyard”.
I’m not like most investors I guess. I have a small portion in stocks (10%) a significant portion in Metals (60%), small portion in energy (10%), and about 20% in Bonds.
I’ve always felt my investment fund managers wanted to throw dollars into Long Term Mutual funds that typically outperform the S&P500, etc, but don’t offer any upside potential. Also most of those instruments are not supposed to lose capital and recently they have.
With government deficit spending throughout the world, I have decided to use less conventional (Mutual Funds), as they have high fees associated.
I feel most investment managers use market indicators and a lot of data to make sound decisions, however, with significant changes in the economy, even data analytics seem to be a hard way to manage portfolios. The media, global economy, speculation, and fear in the market has even the soundest of investment strategies in a state of fluctuation. I am heavy in metals, as it is a tangible asset and there are so many options to get into metals to capitalize on the near term volitility, while using their strength with the long term inflationary factors.
I think most fund managers are going by what most of us do. Following trends and going by their gut. Trying to be diversified. The best thing in my opinion would be to study the past and study what is really happening in the world. Be more informed and then you can make the best decisions.
I think the professional attend courses, use tools, charts, graphs, formulas and methodologies and spend hours, days and weeks analysing. Professionals are not the farm animals (pigs and chickens) - they are the bears and bulls.
I really don’t know how fund managers allocate what stocks and areas to invest, I guess they look at past trends and overall track records of investment vehicles and go from there with the mantra of diversify…. diversify, in case some of the market areas “tank”.
Mostly my investments are with my company where I choose which funds to invest in (only from the ones they allow of course) and I can make changes to type and amount as I choose.
Funny how none of the options are for precious metals, which have the highest returns. Perhaps the fund managers keep them for themselves, food for thought huh.
Roland
my experience with mutual funds would indicate that the experts use the same gut feelings as do most investors, including me. charles horn
I have no idea how they pick them. I am new to investing and am looking to be educated on how to invest.
Larry
My cynical view is that most sales types just follow orders from their bosses on Wall Street & recommend certain stocks that their co. owns, so prices will rise. Then when the price goes up , they sell.
That is why I only deal with discount brokers.
Love your reccommendations.
Frank
Larry, we really enjoy listening to your videos each week here at our RIA!Thanks for letting us listen in.. We use P&F Technical analysis for all our pics and the stronger a chart looks, the larger percentage we will allocate. We also like to compare our top pics with one another using relative strength charts. We’ve found that ‘gut’ just isn’t terribly reliable.Thankfully, we have a good exposure to gold,silver, M&M and so forth..Kevin Martin..
I SOLD ALL HOLDINGS IN NOVEMBER 2009!!!! I held 50% in Franklin Income funds and 50% in PIMCO Bond funds. I held through the downturn, but still realized a loss of 20%…My monthly dividend payment went from $500 one month, $200 the next, then $300…too much volatility; especially when my principle was at risk…I am retired - or should I say middle-aged unemployed. I have a BA in accounting and MBA in finance. The market is rigged right now with all the government funny money..the bankers pump and dump the market as they see fit…surely a gamblers paradise. FDIC extended the $250,000 insurance till December 2013 from December 2009 - but let the money market dollar funds insurance expire. But as you know the FDIC is broke, and is charging forward insurance fees three years forward. More war, gigantic domestic spending plans, all with a deficit that surely is suspect. Oh, do not forget the government’s new taxing schemes just to stay afloat - Secure food, clothing, and shelter..as George Carlin said we the people are not invited to the party!!!! We will never be able to double guess the power players moves - they are desperate because their credit and fractional banking game is collapsing.. Congress seems to be afraid of this hidden power elite and although they are having hearings on the floor right now - These people are the true TEFLON DONS…..SELL!!
I feel most of their investment recommendations ignore the falling dollar and are heavily weighted toward US owned companies. This is a big concern as I do believe the opportunities are in overseas investments.
Judy
I feel most of the investment advice is directed toward US owned companies. This is a concern as I feel the dollar will continue to drop in value and overseas opportunities are a better investment
there is no normal now so a regular methodology is redundant. I only see a 30 yr or more bubble caused and nourished by the fed so I look for a return OF my investment rather than ON the investment. I know the experts make money through charts,quick info and inside info and the money comes from people like me. The banksters and the bureaucrats are stealing the wealth of the nation and the government is gridlocked :so I am 50% in gold and hedging my cash with foreign currencies and commodities.
LARRY I DO MY OWN THING WHEN IT COMES TO INVESTING..I WAS IN SILVER AND GOLD WAY BACK IN 69 WITH A COIN SHOP. NEVER STOPED .THE ONLY THING I STOPED WAS THE PRICE OF IT ..WHEN SILVER WENT OVER 6 BUCKS AND GOLD OVER 450 I STOPED BUYING..
IN THE EARLY 80s I INVESTED IN REALESTATE ,,TODAY I OWN 31 PROPERTYS ALL PAID FOR
AND NO DEBT. I WAS LUCKY TO GET OUT BEFORE THE CRASH. I READ EVERYTHING ON F.S.
IM IN CASH NOW AND BEFORE THE CRASH. I BELIEVE CASH IS KING.. I DONT TRUST THE MARKETS .. I HAVE TO MUCH MONEY TO LOSE. I MAY NOT BE MAKING CRAP ON IT [ BUT ITS MINE ] THE HELL WITH YHE MARKETS.. SILVERBILL
Hello Larry,
Thanks for asking.
We have invested in Silver and stocks based on what we have studied from books, radio programs, and magazines. For some reasons, we believe Silver will give big return than gold.
To me there will be tough to predict what will happen in the markets. We have been very humble to study what we can from books, financial radio talks, attending financial classroom training, learn from the successful people, and becoming a real student at all time that makes us more confident by times when coming to investing subjects.
We are just starting, Larry. That is hard to me to say anything about how good we are in investing.
We have a strong backgrounds in Real Estate Investments more than anything else but not limiting to other investments. No one would say they are good at everything, that is why we love your wisdom and knowledge to help us reaching the next level.
Best Regards,
What SHOULD they being doing? Maybe they should be diversified across sectors of the market foreign and domestic, as the landscape is too frought with obsticles to determine the market’s direction at any point in time right now. Government intervention at just the wrong time is just what we need to establish certainty, right? Until there is a uniform set of rules to go by, without special interests chunking stones through our glass windows, there will always be a question of what move to make and how to implement it. I don’t see anything uniform coming down the pike. The inmates are in charge.
At the present time I am reinvesting every thing back into my own company which is paying off very well
In the past 25+ years of investing in different mutual funds, their managers and philiosophies of investment. I am convinced they all go to the same cocktail parties and vacation on the same Caribean island. There is no difference. To them success is matching the Index Funds and the rest is internal politics. Nobody cares about little guys like me.
I believe that mutual money managers, wall street brokers and pros make all their important decisions in a combination of ways. In this case I would say they use all three ways. First, they have tested reliabe ways to structure portfolios to minimize risks while maximizing profits potential, but this does not always work. And it can even work against them. When they run out of ideas they may quite possibliy take a wild guess or an educated guess. After all they have their own investments at stake to think of, however they cannot always make precise predictions and their formulas do not always work. Then they either have to take advice from someone who knows more than they do or suffer great feats and losses as especially nowadays we frequently hear about. When push comes to shove especially since the market has not been going their way I would not rule out that some of these pros are just shooting blind. This is because this is the way that they make it look.
I am attempting to move out of domestic holdings into more international holdings. I have been concentrating more on commodities such as oil, gas, precious metals, and looking into agriculture and water. I do worry about the potential downfall of our dollar, so try to insulate myself against this event.
I confess I am lacking in research skills, so I read quite a bit and then rely, probably too much, on my intuition for decisions.
Hi,Larry.From what I’ve read 75% of fund managers do not beat the averages.My partner and I have most of our money in microcap commodity stocks.I try to buy mostly using Tech Analysis buying only when stocks are oversold using 3 indicators mainly.When all 3 are oversold at the same time there is a 95% chance they will be up 10-15% a few days later.I keep records to confirm these stats.Of the last 18 stocks in this state 9 were up 10-15% a day later.The longest period of all these stocks to reach a 15% gain was 9 days.Many of these go much higher than 15% in a few days.I am a strong believer [as you do] in the demise of the US$ and gold is a major part of my portfolio along with other commodities and energy.I have been swing trading for a penny or two since July 2009.My portfolio in 2009 was up 63% and my partner’s 91%.Over 180 trades netting $21,765.00 the last six months.So far in Jan. 34 completed trades netted $3880.00 in profits.I am quite content with the way things are going so far.I read all the Tech analysis material I can lay my hands on to increase my expertise.I know most people would not recommend this way of trading but it’s working for us.Thanks for your interest and good luck in the markets.
.regards,Joe.
I have very little wealth, so my only effective savings beyond a minimum of cash in banks and credit unions is a growing silver stash. I decided on this investment due to my belief (based on reading and gut feeling) that it is the best store of wealth that I can afford at this time. I have not ever invested in stocks, bonds or other paper; I grew up in the great depression and have never trusted mere promises. As a result, I have always invested in real estate and now, in silver. I am nearly 81 years of age.
Hi Larry,
I am personally putting all my investments into the African market. My strategy comes from on the ground experience in Africa and strong business acumen. We are opening and operating technology on the continent. Africa is the market.
Kindest Regards
Mary
mary@inetmax.net
Carefully anylizing projections and observing daily witnessing pricess of scrap copper,iron,aluminun,scrap gold; There’s has got be truthfullness, because the prices paid for scrap is attrocious copper 2.00 per pound,gold also pays extreme well. Yes I am very much interested in Global trading foreign currencies bonds and would love to trade Globally. I very much love advisory for creating income for Global trading. As for investment amount always take into cash accessability once family stability has been set into conceptual standards then I’ll decide how much to invest.
I use a combination of fundamental and technical tools to make investing decisions;
1. Current market trend? Bull or Bear. Current stock trend.
2. Current stock price versus 5 year historical data. If a stock is at a 75+ percentile to the 5 year history it will be difficult to significantly increase the price/earnings in this economy.
2-A. Stock price? Over- under 25? Large increases become less likely the higher the price.
3. Position of the Market sector. Is the sector in favor or out of favor?
4. Debt level of said company, debt structure.
5. Is there a cyclical trend in this particular stock? Where is it now in the cycle?
6. Remind myself, do not follow the gut instinct, discipline, discipline, discilpine, follow the plan.
I think that mutual money managers, wall street brokers and the professionals have a combination of ways to make important decisions. Unfortunately, oftentimes, none of these seem to work.
money managers manage your money for their best interest first then you. They tweek the timing of sell and buy orders and make their own bets before making block buys. they try to heard you into trading more to up their commissions. They follow orders from above. (the new world order)
I have listened to you, and done reading and research of my own; Consequently the upshot of your message is currently invest in stocks or ETF’S that are not dollar dominated—emerging Asian economies,natural resoorces, gold etc.—investing in emerging South American economies. My next instinct is to invest in a mutual fund —a gowth fund dealing in a diversified portfolio. Also the MERCK HARD CURRENCY FUND (MERKX), whose prospectus I have read several times, which i find quite impressive. My new investment amount whould be and initial $12,000.00/ Thank you!
I tend to follow the advice of your group of recent…weiss research led me to your group and I am about to be in a position to invest..your group seems authentic and reasonable which is what attracted me to the team….i am still planning on joining the 595.00 program which still is offered but i am just a few days away from having the funds to do this and more…i am leaning toward foreign investments like china and brazil as well as gold, silver, oil…will count on your input here as well..
I dont know how much to invest and where…my past has been more from the hip and that has been worked and been lucky…looking forward to your leadership and guidance..thanks…bob
Dear Larry,
I appreciate the opportunity to comment, however, I am a novice on portfolio management. My advice is to follow your advice … especially, since I am inclined to align my thoughts with your background, your geographical input (Thailand) and common sense approach.
I personally spend 50% of the year in Thailand (Koh Samui) and 50% of the year in Aspen, so we seem to have a common reference of clear thinking. Keep up the good work. I look forward to meeting you someday in Bangkok.
Mutual funds seem the way to go. You can find any number of them that meet your criteria for your individual investing needs. You are hiring pros in their particular fields, sometimes a team of managers, to screen and choose stocks and other investments . Read the prospectus and you will discover the paritcular modles they follow. Fees and returns are readily available as is manager track records.
Most of the Mutual funds keep their investments in certian types of companies but I am sure they must use some method that includes recognition of events that set off an increase or decrease in stock values along with the company history, strengths and weakness. and probably some of their interpretation of the companies earning power.
Since the down turn of the market from 10,000 plus to 8,000 and back i have notice no change in market stradegy from all the advestment advise. In all but a few case recommendation come after the stock prise had risent almost to the peak. It would be nice to know of ideas just as they turn around rather than much much later. Personally have chosen to stay out of the market this time and go for internation funds and use the money I took out of the market to go short or long on dollar vs Aus dollar or s ome other combilnation. I have a gut feeling that the market is going down shortly and am selling most of what is stiil in.
Respectfully,
Lew
First, I know that I’m a conservative investor. I want to preserve my capital. Second, I’m nearing retirement. Finally, I just do not trust the stock market and now believe that it is for very rich people who can afford to lose money; and that’s not me. I’ve had bad experiences with AAA rated corporate bonds so that’s definitely not a viable market. I’ve never tried muni-bonds, but with all the insolvent states it’s a bad time to be in those. Now, with all the government spending, I do not trust the treasury market. Annuities are totally out of the question as who would ever trust an insurance company with their money after the cavalier AIG malfeasance. And, with Federal Reserve quantitative easing, I just do not trust the US Dollar. Gold has already moved-up massively. Physical gold is hard to obtain, hard to store securely, and hard to sell at good prices. Paper gold is just as bad the stock market. This leaves me in quite a quandary. I’m frozen in cash like a deer in the headlights knowing this is also bad with the rapid money supply increase. Where do I turn?.Nothing is safe anymore, and nothing will ever feel safe again.
LARRY, TO START WITH, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT I AM A SMALL INVESTOR, AND THAT I AM CONCERNED ABOUT NOT LOSING, TRYING TO MAKE GAINS BY MAKING AS FEW MISTAKES AS POSSIBLE. OUR GOAL IS TO BUILD INCOME TO ADD TO OUR RETIREMENTS, WHICH ALMOST CERTAINLY WILL NOT BE ENOUGH IN THE YEARS AHEAD. ALL OF OUR STOCKS ARE CANADIAN, AND ALL ARE DIVIDEND PAYING, OIL-GAS-PIPLINES, EXCEPT FOR THE GOLD-SILVER STOCK. WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO CAPTURE GAINS IN GOLD AND SILVER, WE CONVERT THEM TO MORE OIL-GAS-PIPLINES TO INCREASE OUR INCOME STREAM. WE BUY BULLION IN THE FORM OF COINS, GOLD AND SILVER AS WE CAN, TO ADD TO OUR INVENTORY. WE DON’T HAVE ALOT OF GOLD AND SILVER STOCK, BUT ENOUGH THAT WHEN IT DOUBLES OR TRIPLES, WE WILL BE CLOSE TO OUR OBJECTIVE ON INCOME STREAM. WITH REGARD TO CURRENCIES, WE NOW HAVE SOME ACCESS THROUGH EVERBANK, WHICH WE HOPE TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT, AND MAYBE GAIN WITH OUR LONG TERM SAVINGS. WHAT REALLY CONCERNS ME RIGHT NOW, IS TALK ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT LIQUIDATING OUR IRAS. I CAN’T BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING AFTER 5 YEARS OF WORK ON OUR PART TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE AND HAVE THIS HAPPEN………AM LOOKING FOR WAYS TO INVEST IN LITHIUM, URANIUM AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO USE ETF’S TO DO IT. I GUESS THE BASIS FOR THE PLAN IS THE BELIEF, THAT BEFORE TOO LONG, GOLD AND SILVER WILL REALLY BEGIN TO ESCALATE IN A MORE SERIOUS WAY. I HOPE I AM RIGHT ABOUT THIS ASPECT OF WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH OUR PLAN. TIMING MAY BE EVERYTHING. I READ ABOUT EVERYTHING I CAN FIND, DAY AFTER DAY. THANKS FOR WHAT YOU CONTRIBUTE TO MY UNDERSTANDING AND MY DECISIONS.
I don’t care for mutual funds because if they’re really interested in maximizing my profits they’d be watching the market close enough to buy on highs/sell on lows continuously in the stocks they have chosen instead of choosing them and letting them sit until the cows come home. If they’re not going to I will.
I usually pull the trigger when I seen a steady increase in the stock price, followed by a dip in the price, and then I buy. I always wait for a buy recommendation from either Tony or Larry, I follow the stock, then act. As for silver and gold, I am probably over weighted in stocks, ETF’s, physical, and leverage, but I feel the metals will continue to out perform the market for the next 3 years minimum.
System? 75% or more of my investment decisions are made by, or on the strong recommendations of, Morgan Stanley to whom I pay 75 a basis point on equities fee annually - no execution costs on equities and the spread on bonds. The only decisions I made this year were the following: 1) I sold all my USD fixed income investments to buy foreign bonds; 2) I bought 20 0z of gold at $1065 and 8000 pre-1965 quarters at the same time; 3) I sold half my US equities and bought foreign ETFs; and (4) when I got scared of the Japanese ETF, I sold it and bought a few thousand dollars worth of SLW, which went up slightly, but is down today.
Why?: No system, just profound distrust of a feckless political class and bureaucracy, and a conviction that America is following Great Britain down the drain a century later — and for the same reasons, led by the same people (Fabians then, and Frankfurt Schoolboys and Gramscians now). I am trying to find a “system”, but my distrust of the investment advisory community is very close to the distrust of politicians and bureaucrats.
I do enjoy your emails on Thursday, and that’s why I’m responding to your invitation to — bloviate.
I Don’t know what to buy NOR How much to invest, BUT I do know I want to move out of the dollar, buy more gold and other things!
A friend of mine had purchased 4 mil of middle east dinar as he told me his research (he believes) will see this currency go up in a month or so
I am Looking for advice on what I can do for my family to try and make our (left over) money be safe and increase!
My wife & I have less than 18K for retirement, (in the market) How and where to pull it out and put it is where I need (Much needed) advice!
I do have some (small amount) of gold & silver coins I bought in 99 as well!
H E L P
Sincerely
John Hochreiter
I am selling gold now. Much gold is set aside in ETF’s. When it starts coming down the short term investors will take out their money. It could be a disaster.
I have some foreign stocks but I am not overloading. The US will come back. BE PATIENT !!!
I have a significant distrust of Mutual fund managers. If they do follow their gut I think most of them have Irritable Bowel Syndrome. I think individuals make better choices with their own money because they are more cautious because it’s THEIR money. I like Milton Friedman’s quote on spending money which I think applies to investing people’s money “There are four ways in which you can spend money. You can spend your own money on yourself. When you do that, why then you really watch out what you’re doing, and you try to get the most for your money. Then you can spend your own money on somebody else. For example, I buy a birthday present for someone. Well, then I’m not so careful about the content of the present, but I’m very careful about the cost. Then, I can spend somebody else’s money on myself. And if I spend somebody else’s money on myself, then I’m sure going to have a good lunch!”
Regarding mutual fund managers. They are limited by the fund’s prospectus. The prospectus determines how the money must be invested. This means that they cannot protect your capital if the fund’s strategy is no longer viable. In other words, they cannot respond to changing market conditions. The same applies to index mutual funds.
I think fund managers rely on turn over and luck. Their records show that when the market goes up the funds go up. When markets drop funds’ values drop. I think the best way to invest is to have no one between you and your money.
I don’t suspect that the wall street fortune tellers are a monolithic group. Some use charts, like ancient Etruscans reading entrails. Many follow the pied pipers with the flashiest fronts and loudest pipes. Some just watch the stars while they aren’t snorting stuff. I suspect Ouija boards are big sellers. And there are probably a few who see the lemmings head for the cliff and decide to find a way less traveled. In the end it doesn’t matter: when playing a rigged game only the guys who marked the cards come out ahead.
I monitor several services like yours and invest in a composite of the recommendations. My investments are fairly diversified, but with the highest percentage in resources. I have zero interest in bonds and tend to stay away from things that I do not feel that I have adequate understanding of, or the time and knowledge to monitor, such as curriencies and options.
Allocation is roughly based on the perceived composite return potential of the various categories.
Larry, you dont have to be a harvard graduate to see the direction of things to come
It is painfully obvious that the ultra rich do not want to share wealth or even breathing
space with the common people anymore.. As you have said in the past the dollar is going
to be a thing of the past so people need to concentrate on essentials food, water, shelter,
just basics the problem is if you dont have several warehouses its hard to put all your money in staples… I think silver is a better bet for practical reasons than gold.. easier to use in case of an emergency.. simple for small purchases, and a better buy for the amount of disposible cash you may have on hand.. The markets are going to fall,
there is nothing supporting them now except federal reserve slight of hand..
i have no money to invest so it means nothing to me. i was born poor and will be poor unless God greatly blesses me with a boat load of money. at that time i would invest in gold and bonds. stocks are too tricky and risky. with bonds at least you know that there is a return and gold is always rising..
My mutual fund advisor watches a whole bunch of indicators and then jumps in too late - after the rise is half way over - and then by the same indicators waits to jump out till the market has allready lost a large chunk of its gains. In the end he is just keeping even with the DOW. The kind of investments he insists on pushing are based on what he (and his company) learned years ago. Needless to say those methods don’t work today.
He also resists getting into mining stocks and foreign investments. And doesn’t believe there is any real probability of the dollar crashing.
Obvious conclusion - I gotta’ get rid of this turkey!!!! Jim
I read everything i can about investments, economics and markets, relying on bloomberg.com, and alpha as well as money and markets, safe money, and all weiss publications. i also watch kudlow and cramer. i read newspapers and on line sites as diverse as huffington post and drudge to stay abreast of the news. i have two portfolios and both are designed to provide me with income when i retire in a year and a half. safety of principal and some return are my goals in my conservative portfolio and i do not actively manage it but i do monitor it on a daily basis. the other fund is my ira in mutual funds and right now it is heavily weighted to gold and energy and high yield bonds plus a china fund and short term gov bonds. i make decisions based on intuition and common sense. your publications heavily influence my re-weighting of portfolio but ultimately i make my own decisions.
I’m sure most pros have different breakdowns on percentages built on customer’s risk selection. I would think that no more than 20% of investments should be in gold (physical & gold stocks or ETFs). Personally I have about 30% in physical gold and silver. I’m probably exposing myself to more risk, but at this point I think it’s worth it.
I haven’t decided but what I’ve been reading has me looking into the precious metals and am trying to follow an MIT discovery in a solar film. I am currently flumuxed about how to judge a reputable broker. I have friends with much more experience and hope to get advice from them.
I have just closed an IRA account that I had with LPL because it hasn’t gained a dime in the last 20 years. I will put it in another IRA, soon. I know I have 60 days to reinvest and not get zapped.
I am wary of the financial sector because it isn’t adequately regulated and the powers that be have managed to maintain opacity in vital areas, particularly securities. I am also concerned about short selling and the whole gambling thing with the large banks, I believe proprietory trading is one mechanism that is also kept in the dark.
I hope you’ll pardon me for my seeming lack of modesty but I am fortunate to have been blessed with an exceptionally gifted brain. It has languised too long in the financial arenas. I have decided that the time has come to take charge of my IRA.
If I could maintain the tax status of an IRA, I’d buy physical commodities and keep them in the mattress. I value your perspectives but am not able, yet, to purchase anything from you.
BTW, my cousin has worked for the World Bank and before that the IMF and she made all her decisions based upon intuition. I’m not saying that’s good—-I don’t think it is. I’m just saying that’s the situation.
Her husband was 2nd in command at the World Bank.
Hello Larry,
I’d would like to post some comments from your great emails that I get about money. the questions you pose today have so much to do with the way you perceive money and how you treat it and your past success and I think experiences and enviornments play into too., money should not be an emotional decision making process especialy when risk taking , but given what the current circumstances are, who could afford to lose it all anymore. so I think that your newsletters, pat gorman and ron paul and people like yourself help show trends and forecasts and curves and history of geopolitcal things , wars, the lossof the gold standard in the us, our foregin trade policies and all that extra green we print up that is totaly false and hyped up help contribute to the trends and dollar value we are seeing now. these things will most definately effect our power of the almighty dollar and it;s value and whom we trust with money. I would not go with hedge fund money manager on wall street ever, I would look at precious commodites like you guys do and go with history politics , jobs, green technologies and bio-tech , and alternatives to are co-dependence on crude oil . go natural , gold and silver, mining stocks penny stocks, natural resources, helping repair our infrastructure crumbling bridges,water lines, pipes, damming up all those dam dams we built and blew up. helping nuture nature and natural foods.
Mutual funds obvoiusly have research teams studying markets, be it technical or fundamental ! However in days like these, i think if they are just keeping it simple they should be able to profit, “common sense” would be the right the right way to put it.
Here is what I think and what I do and why. I believe wall street is owned, yes I said owned. We are the pawns. I believe in this superglobal world little to nothing is left to chance. I think wall street is the biggest and best ponzi scheme to ever hit the planet, and it is run by a select few who mark what is to go up and what is to go down. I could explain my reasoning which i feel is sound, but you don’t have the room. If I can’t feel it, touch it, possess it, I don’t invest in it. Stocks are air. Someone else is controlling it. I can get to what I invest in, and I don’t have to ask to invest, or request my investment from anyone. Not even a broker. Forget that mess.
I am very new to this investing. I know I have to be very aggressive in the next 12-15 years to have some to work with in retirement. I am looking to your expertise to provide some guidance. I know need to have balance. Where do I start?
I am not sure about investing in general because of all the coruption in our government.
We know the government is manipulating our markets and given this it will be an extremely
volitile market. I feel we should invest in clean water!
Totally lost new t this and need some serious help
as far as wallstreet brokers I think a lot of them just don’t care because it really doesn’t matter to them they will still get there commission
I believe they act by emotion and choose popular paths to invest, such as index funds where the values follow the market and a perfect excuse for performance failure is available.
As far as structuring portfolios I believe that they use the tried and tested way of associating age with portfolio balance.
Per your questions: Mutual fund managers generally allocate funds in a way that is conservative enough to be defensible in court so that in case of losses they can defend against the accusation of recklessness. Due to that fact they often miss many good opportunities. Although they use mathematical modeling the models are not perfect, so basically they are shooting blind unless they have inside information such as plans for money policy, etc. Even then mistakes are made as can be seen from the record.
I like to base my decisions on safety, demand and necessity. I am worried about all fiat currencies so a strong position in gold and silver bullion and stocks (33%) is fine with me. On the demand side, I think that the emerging countries have a huge appetite for raw material and energy such as quality coal, steel, cement, copper. I think that the appetite for lithium and cobalt is huge for hybrid batteries considering how large these batteries are and how much product they require. There are a few great opportunities in this area. I think a 33% allocation in energy suits my portfolia just fine. I also think that agriculture is a great area to invest in (people have to eat). Potash has been depressed but I think the price will rise soon and so a position in this area is also fine. I think about 20% here is good.
The rest I dabble with strategic metal and I have been looking at stem-cell companies.
I like to use stop losses and I have a very nervous feeling that a huge market correction is just around the cornor. I think that the dow looks pretty shaky and I am afraid that the baby will be thrown out with the bath water so that there will be big correction on the commody stocks as well. Huge buying opportunity on weakness for commodites coming up. The 10, 20, 30, 40 and 50 day moving averages have just been taken out on gold and I am nervously watching these critical numbers.
Regards;
Louis.
Those decisions come from higher up. Total manipulation to drain your assets.
They just follow the ‘advise’. I buy silver, until I can afford gold.
Stocks are intangibles, I don’t invest there. My precious metals include brass, copper and lead.
Food, water, and a remote location is the best protection.
I believe in having a balanced portfolio which includes some mutual funds with domestic and foreign stocks.However lately I have moved heavier into mining stocks and precious metals.I am also moving more into resourse stocks connected to Oil and agriculture.I would not think of buying Treasury Bonds as long term they may become worthless.
After “studying” the markets, precious metals was for me the place to be. And since I can’t know everything I stick to precious metals and don’t invest in emerging markets, or short bonds or buy agriculturals, because I don’t know enough about that, because it’s my opinion that you only put your money in a certain asset class/stock if have “studied” that particulary asset class good enough. So I bought 80% in 2007 and 20% in march 2009. So I’m “long” and “all-in” gold and silver. I just sit and wait…… I would prefer 100% silver, but in case we would get monetairy deflation, goldstocks should save my portfolio.
I am looking to place 35% in metals, 40% in natural recources,the rest in Brazil, India and China
I think they are just extremely intelligent people doing a lot of creative accounting. I know China well enough to invest my money wisely there.
Larry,
I very much appreciate your information, comments, and advice. I have limited time to devote to keeping up with the stock market and investing. The stock market crash caught me unawawre. I am now investing almost exclusively in precious metals and energy stocks due to past history of dollar devaluation as a result of prolonged government printing of money and economic instability. My experience of foreign market investment, though theoretically exemplary, has been that it requires inside information and careful surveilance to be successful.
My own money management plan for the coming years is to go long on the precious metals.I currently have invested over 20% in the precoius metals with Gold & Silver as the priimary choice,& I mean physical Gold & Silver.The dollar is diving & inflation will skyrocket, either way the precious metals are a winner for the next decade. The equities I have chosen to invest the remainder of my net worth in has been chosen and that would be the financials and realestate.Those two areas in my view have been depressed and are sure to gain in value over the next decade. I have chosen some bonds out of pure preservation play ,yet I think the fed could raise interest rates and reduce the yields on my bonds, although I dont see that happening. I see the devaluation happening 1st.
In Answer to:
How do you think mutual fund money managers and Wall Street brokers and pros make these all-important decisions?
Are they just guessing? Shooting blind? Or do they have tested, reliable ways to structure portfolios that truly do minimize your risk while maximizing profit potential?
I assume that most of them..at least the good ones…. use a combination of Technical indicators and
their own research related to the performance of the individual companies, the trend of the markets served by the individual companies, and the fundamentals of the company performance as reported compared to other similar companies.
I try to use the same tools as listed above to evaluate, but probably do not spend enough time to do the best job, so I probably rely more on technical performance.
i took 10 grand loan on credit card and put it on a small cap gold and silver miner stock 6.00 per share down 1500 but like the risk vs the rewards hard to know when to get in and out so now i just leave it in looking at some penny gold stocks which could be huge if gild and silver do their magic hope im still alive to see it then cashing out in bullion thanks for letting me vent bob
I agree with Kay 100%. I do not trust any brokers and Mutual fund managers. They always make money of us. They get their commissions wheather we make money or not. I read alot of newsletters and the internet to get different takes on paticular stocks I want to invest in. I am investing in anything that plays against the dollar. I have sold all my bonds in the last 10 days and will watch for the other shoe to drop in the stock market. That will be the time to put cash to work. I own both gold and silver.
Larry:
I am focusing on silver futures at the present. As those returns grow I will diversify. Probably be another year or so.
larry what would you charge to e mail me your daily thoughts on its daily direction bob is there a cheap way to play the dollar to go up ?
I think they keep their finger on the pulse and they have a very good network with which to consult afterall money makes money…..and power, they all help each other out.
Hi,
In response to todays ?’s
They are just guessing!
Shooting blind?
Ya they test, with OPM.
They reliably structure the portfolios that do minimize profit potential, while maximizing YOUR risk?
Trading in DOLLARS!!
You do know what’s happening with it by the way? Follow the trend……..
Chipolena
I think , investing of pros is based on combination of statistic /numbers / and human psychology . One without another would be less efficient than both combined together . Regards Radek
I view fund managers and street brokers as SALESMEN and no different that the kid on the corner selling watermelons in the summertime. Most of them (some limited exceptions) are no better at analysis that the average man on the street and supports J. Bogle’s assertion and tested findings that index funds do about as well and some times better than most individual stocks.
I am sure that fund managers have a system. The questions is whether the system is any better than the random allocation that most of us amateures use. They also have a need to diversify which to me seems to suggest that they will have some exposure to most markets therefore at best they are an average, and most seem to do worse than the various indexes.
There are a few good fund managers out there. I was in one that doubled my money in less than a year. Of course, the fund company then moved him to a much bigger fund that used rules that meant he had to change his way of trading. After the rule changes brought about by the “timing” issue, I stopped using funds entirely. I don’t “invest” anymore. I make short term trades in sector ETF options based on technical issues.
Peter Schumacher
Larry,
Your simple question has complicated answers. Mutual Fund managers work within the scope and profle of the fund they are managing with the objective of obtaining the optimum return witin the mandate of the fund to risk and volatility. The trick is knowing which fund managers know what they are doing. Stock brokers are a different breed where there is a blurry line between client interest and self interest. In either case it is incumbebt on the investor to gain a comfort level with their advisor/broker and to establish performance expectations that can be monitored.
The good fund managers are found in the top quartile within their asset class on a regular basis over a period of time. Good brokers are those who not only provide advice commensurate with the economic environment but also respects the client’s comfort for the risk assumed. In these cases there is a systematic approach used and guesswork is never a part of the equasion. The question again, is how does an investor identify those that are good from those that are weak?
With the Fed Reserve monetizing 80% of the gov’t debt, complete lack of a gold standard, and $100 trillion in unfunded entitlement promises that will go unfulfilled, the coming Age will be worse than the Great Depression. I favor commodities and oil service companies exclusively. Bonds will decline in value when interest rates rise, and I question the rating of their issuers in the era of bankrupt states and manipulation of markets in general. Wall Street = The Federal Govt, who buys and sells stocks with fiat currency and affects the prices for the rest of us schmucks who use dollars earned with our sweat and creation of real wealth.
What happens when the world dumps the dollar as its reserve currency, as could happen overnight? The value of everything will crash..So what are you supposed to do? Stuff your mattresses with Mercury dimes?
Precious Metals (33%), Foreign Stocks (33%) (Asia, Latam), Base, Energy (33%)
Larry I have followed you for the past few months and agree with your thoughts. I do my own tracking of various stocks on a global basis. Still sold on some usa oil,gas,pipeline business as these would be the first out of the box if the economy starts to improve. Have a few foreign stocks in growth areas I am not one for manufacturing as it is a very competative world. Bonds will get killed when inflation gets momentum. People buy bonds priced beyond the call price for safety and will have lost 20-30 percent on the down side. Missed the bank run but with all the debt I had to pass it was just a pop. Great to follow you and see the trends. Regards, Lou
1) I have a major percentage of my portfolio in high dividend stocks. This, along with social security and my pension, gives me a base line income which is adaquate for my needs. I get to play with the rest of my portfolio. I allocate the funds to about 5-6 equal sections which vary somewhatin percentage based on the calculated risk of a particular investment. Based on the research that I have done, I am presently investing in foriegn ETFs and resource stocks/ETFs.
While I was working, I had my 401K funds invested by the money manager in charge of the funds. After some years of what I considered poor advice and less than stellar performance, I took control of my assets and have been managing them myself for about 12 years. I have done significantly better than they did.
Since most money managers don’t do as well as the index that the funds ard in, I am not impressed by the performance of most money managers. If they have superior knowledge in how to select equities and allocate funds, they haven’t shown it in my presence. I have been researching equities and trying methodologies for selecting stocks/ETFs for many years and have several that work well for me. I am quite happy with the results that I get.
I know that they have terrific research available to them. They also use a diversity plan based on their objectives plus a great deal of technical and fundamental analysis. With all of this, even they flub it up at times.
This is not a matter of popular opinion, it’s what the market brings you.
My former financial manager read Investment Business Daily and the Wall Street Journal. He stated when hired that he did “in depth research” but did not discuss exactly what it was. Later, i informed him that the stocks he purchased that lost money were ALREADY DOWN due to the fact that Fund Managers had them in their portfolio already when printed in those publications. He promptly lost money and even did wash sales.
In my opinion, the money fund managers go by predetermined fluxuations in the market for various commodities. They tend to jump on the bandwagon when a particular stock moves ahead of their curves or behind and they use massive amounts of institutional shares at a time and make the market more (or less) rosey than it really is. Manufactured trading as I would call it. They only have limited inside information for prosperity in any particular stock. P/E ratios and other instinctive or knowledgeable sources of information are more true indication of a stocks value and earning potential.
I have an annuity IRA that I do not need for living expense. The monthly payment goes back into a commodities fund IRA. Also have non IRA brokerage fund in natural resources fund. I am near 70 1/2 and upon required takeout from IRA will put into resources fund. My wife is 63 and has IRA & non IRA mutuals and stocks. We have physical silver and gold coins. I am trading currencies on a small scale. We have 35K being used in remodeling B&B house adjacent to home. 125K 5.85% Mortgage on home and 10K on pickup vehicle. Have 1k/mo rental receipts commercial real est, oil royalties and do some part time work.
I think they take risk with size and scope of company.If it’s a newer company more risk, older more public less risk.Also a shot in the dark.I don’t have alot of money invested except in my deferred comp acc. from work.Not alot of choices to pick from in it.I really don’t like mutual funds because of the fees and commission and like Curtis T Jr.said”they get there money”. Larry please help us get some insight!!!
I would expect the money managers and brokers to primarily utilize the opinions and analysis of the key analysts in the firm. Beyond simply incorporating the key analysts views, the individual money managers and brokers might make certain investment decisions based on their understanding of the key fundamentals and their reading of the charts. Obviously, their sophistication in fundamental analysis and technical analysis will vary widely. As we know, these individuals are primarily sales people that mostly rely on the expertise of the firm’s analysts.
Investing in bric countries more + Israel. Don’t understand Russia so stay out
Trend trade ETF’s for commodities
Like market killers in the USA along with regional companies in my area.
Like exercising, I should invest in Index funds more, mutual funds are for losers.
Don’t worry about asset allocation, and portfolio balancing. If it is complicated it is not for me.
Larry, I think most reputable and knowledgeable money manager use diversification with hedges on certain investments to minimize the risk. Depending on the risk tolerance of the investor.
not realy sure I am learning as I go this is all new. I think the u s dollar is in very bad shape . right now I am looking at other currencies.
Personally I never watched the markets enough to bother investing in stocks. I am convinced that it’s just as important to know when to buy/sell/trade stocks as is the importance of investing in ones where profits will generally exceed loses. I did have an insurance policy once that was turned into about 30 stocks by the company. I didn’t appreciate having to pay income tax on dividends. My dividends were less than $50 a year! I don’t mean to be close-minded. To each his own. I think I’ll take my chances with precious metals such as gold, palladium and silver. I’m convinced those bullion and coins are a safer long-term investment. In this day and time I think it’s also prudent to stock up on food, water (if you can keep it in peace) and be prepared to defend yourself from looters.
If I had time to watch and manage actively my investments, I would a) put 50% In physical gold/silver/platinum/palladium;
b) foreign stocks Asia and Latin America
As it is, I went with option A to the full 100% of my small fund. I do not trust the banks, the American economy, and much less the government.
I started structuring my portfolio by hedging against the declining dollar by investing in gold & silver bullion and rare historic coins approx.15-20%. Then i researched several small jr. gold and silver minning companies that are already producers averaging low cost productions vs. current gold price. Then i felt should minimize risk a little more by investing into domestic companies that are expanding into emerging markets of consumer goods and comodities( 40–55%). Currently looking at the balance into energy and natural resourses that are up and coming in the next 2-3yrs. I very seldom invest on a gut feeling or what some of my fellow colleagues do. I read a heck of a lot about all sorts of investments and appreciate the extraodinary insights and experience of the Uncommon Wisdom crew. As far as mutual fund managers and wall street brokers, nobody will looks after your money better than you will. Sdavis
They watch the actions of a few key people and positions in the banking, petroleum and farm industries as well as the politicos. A careful study of the contexts of change within past economic cycles when correlated with immediately preceding events by the above named people combined with watching who is doing what in the derivative markets an analysis can be made to predict the market’s reaction to a given set of circumstances. The key indicators are the actions of the many many profitable investments made over the decades by the US Federal Gov’t and their correlation to the derivative market. A detailed analysis will show (as mine did) that often significant changes in the direction of our economy are in response to actions and events designed to provoke such changes without leaving individuals for the losers to blame. Ergo, the investment markets are continually manipulated by those with the element required to perform such manipulation to remove almost all risk from themselves while enhancing the risk to almost total for other hapless investors.
It is possible to make money if you have some to start with, are prudent and observant of the mechanisms just below the surface of what’s reported in the papers and on TV.
Question 1: Unfortunately we were wiped out by the combination of lymphoma and the disastrous effects of the housing market crash. However, if I had resources I would invest in reputable companies that had no budget to influence government policies. The solution of the U.S. economic problem will not come from the government or companies treated with favour by the government. Government printing of dollars will do nothing but make questionable gains look good. In what would I invest? Firstly, gold and the exploration for and development of gold sources will be the most stable even though the the profit, in dollars, may not reflect its value. Secondly, manufacturers and technology produced in more stable countries economically such as Israel.
Question 2: At this point, being concerned with the total collapse of the U.S. economy, I would invest about 60% in gold, 30% in technology, and 10% in medical care (as a hedge that the U.S. survives the “Medical Reform” that is being pushed on American Citizens)
Larry, I am not able to invest greatly. So when my broker several months ago wanted me to invest with Bank of American I said No way…he said my pick was not
a very good choice, but I insisted. I have to believe in what I choose,
In at $16 or $17 I have now forgotten…Lately it has gone up in value 3 times…pretty good for a rank poor beginner. The stock? CREE….. It might be more fun if I had more money to invest. I have to KNOW who I am spending money with to be comfortable letting go of my sheckels. Nora
This weeks questions -
Question 1. I gave up on mutual funds years ago. Me feeling is that many decisions are the result of one manage making a good case for an approach and the rest just following their lead. Sure I believe most of them believe their method is good for their customers. Just as the proponents of “Climate Change” believe the human race can affect it. I notice we still can’t even predict the weather or earthquakes. So whether they use charting, cyclic analysis, or just the old fashioned gut, managers will miss something.
Dear Larry, Old saying: There are many different ways to skin the cat. I follow what I call the Neanderthal Investment Program. I started with 1,000 dollars in 1970, and now at the age of 70+ I have managed to assemble quite a little collection of real estate– up to age fifty using vigorously OPM and after fifty getting out of debt like crazy. My reasoning on debt? After fifty your legs don’t run so fast anymore. Now I’m off to Europe to continue my property diversifications. Goal has never been especially making money. Rather I have just wanted to not wear a necktie and say, “Yes, sir.” As for the neanderthal bit, real estate and especially farm land is not the fastest way to get rich, but when thingslook a bit grim, at least you can go out and kick it.
Brokers and mutual fund managers have disappointed me in the past; I now gamble without someone taking a drag from the pot; and Erin is my muse.
One would hope fund managers would read balance sheets , portfolios, prior prices, and any bit of knowledge which would give them some edge in the market. But I had my money in mutual funds and lost all but a bit I try to manage myself. At least I haven’t lost by reading Uncommon Wisdom and other publications. Wish I had some one to trust I could follow. As an educator my expertise was not in markets or stocks or commodities - or money! Any suggestions?
Mutual fund managers are constrained by the objectives of the particular fund. Most have to stay nearly fully invested at all times. Brokers are mainly concerned with generating commissioms, or else they go with a conventional stocks/bonds/cash allocation. Pros probably have tried and true methods that they use, at least for their own accounts.
Prior to 2008 the Professional Brokers had tools that allowed them to predict good and bad investments because the rules of the game were predictable prior to the recession. The recession changed the rules, but now the fund managers are going back to the tools that worked before the recession. A pretty obvious question has to be asked, if their tools were so damned good, why did we all lose so much money in the melt down?
The economy is not statistically predictable because it is a human phenomenon it is not naturally occuring. When everyone agrees the market will act some way and everyone plays the game, it is predictable. The recession changed that and no one I have seen has figured out the new rules of the game. The best they can do is assure us the same practices that lead to the recession, will lead us out. That is kind of like Colonel Custer telling his troops, if they did the same thing that got them into Little Big Horn, he could get them out of Little Big Horn.
The economic reality is changing quickly and what was true in January of 2008 is not true today. So “Professional” managers need to be demonstrating an understanding of what the hell happened, and where things are going. I frankly only see them reaching back in the bag of tricks they had in 2008.
Hi Larry!
I have the utmost respect for you and believe everything you say because you have the experience and intellect—and most likely adequate intuition—to derive correct financial and economic answers.
However, besides using your fundamentals, technical analysis and study of cycles, I also include astrology, numerology and even the spiritual interpretation and meaning of the so-called Mayan Sacred Calendar that few people truly understand and induces them to fixate on an end date of December 21, 2012, which is really not connected with a “doomsday” scenario.
This is why I have been telling people that I feel there will be “panic buying” of gold and silver before November 2nd, and astrology is revealing a terrible global scenario (not so much for Asia) for much of this year, with the planetary aspects for July as being quite foreboding.
Like most scientifically-minded males, I always thought astrology was nonsense until I was confronted with the philosophical statement: Criticism, without investigation, is the height of ignorance! Hence, I’ve studied and applied it for many years, with very positive results.
To answer your second question, I believe that at least 50% to 100% of funds should be invested in gold and silver (especially silver) because any other “commodity” may not be a “sure thing” this year.
Bill Maynard, Bomoseen, VT
totally guess. when the market goes up they always have an excuse why they can’t make money.
overweighted in the wrong stocks- or underweighted, or simply the wrong picks. when the market goes down, they lose more than their benchmark. kinda get tired of it.
well, Larry i think they have tested and reliable ways to minimazing risk and maximizing potential profit
In the past I have relied on the advice of my broker. And even though I always make it a point to make sure that they know that it doesn’t matter how great or reliable performer a company has been, as soon as I get involved, the company(ies), start doing very poorly and continue to do poorly until the day that I finally decide to get out before I have lost everything. After much thought on the subject (what can I invest in that there will always be a need for), I finally came to the conclusion that no matter what happens, people will always need three things, food, water, & energy. So my future
investing endeavors will have to fit one or more of those three eternal needs.
1. Depending on the fund there are multiple levels of sophistication from quant formulas to research per se.
Larry, no one I know wishes my advice, but you have ask twice, so here goes. As a young man I went to Asia and stayed 35 years. I was there from 1958 to 1992. Japan, Okinawa and the Philippines, from 1972 to 1992. This period started at the time of Martial Law, and during the time suffered a devaluation from 5 Pesos to 1 to 50 Pesos to 1. It was not a sudden devaluation but a slow death of the currency. The middle class was wiped out. Retired Civil Service and Military had pensions that were not worth going to the bank to cash. The only thing that kept value were foreign silver coins.
Upon returning to America, I resolved to keep 10% of my money in foreign silver coins. They were plentyful here, and I could read Japanese and Chinese well enough to read the dates. Silver was inexpensive at the time, and usually foreign coins traded at a discount to US Silver.
You can’t imagine what it is to wake up every day, wondering what has happened to the currency while you slept. You have to experince it, no one can tell you. I hope it does not happen here, as 10% is not enough protection.
No one but you have even mentioned the Philippines, but 90 million people were wiped out. You mentioned San Miguel. I rode on a plane once with a Vice President of the Company. I told him I had considered buying his stock. He told me to write to him, and he would get the stock. He warned me against trusting any broker. I am sure that is not the case now, but it was then.
When Governments fail, the people are left with holding the bag. I am sure the people of Venezula are suffering this week.
Our national debt will not be paid by our grandchildren. They will just revalue the currency and move on. While China stays in lock step with their Yuan, there is nothing we can do.
Manufacturing is not new to China. In 1898 Philidelphia had 18 presses at the U. S. Mint. Kwang Tung Provence had 90. On course that was the largest mint, but nearly every provence had a mint.
I enjoyed reading your piece from Manila. I recall the tall buildings in Makati and the wide street, that used to be a U. S. Army Air Corp. runway. There was a retired Navy man that ran a resturant in the old control tower. Those days are gone, but I bet Makati Avenue is still the same concrete.
I really enjoy your writing and am happy you can make a living doing it.
Neal
Precious metals - mostly gold, some silver, and their stocks: 10% of liquid assets (protection)
Energy stocks- many pay good dividends: 20% (gotta have power)
Other income stocks, ‘good’ ideas, sell calls, non-dollar plays, bonds: 20% (growth and income?)
Cash:50% (not worth much, but good to have)
i dont really know what i am doing. i read a lot on the internet. most of what i am hearing is precious metals and natural resources. so i buy shares in companies that mine gold, silver, coal, lithium and natural gas. on the physical gold side i am a saint freak. all graded by ngc and pcgs and all ms64s and ms65s. i am not sure this is a great idea either, but they do seem to be steadily going up.
Hi Larry,
interesting question, but in reality, I don’t invest in mutual funds, nor do I invest
with any full service brokers. I’m afraid, due to many past experiences, that most
only “push” equities “du jour”.
Perhaps that’s why more individual investors are taking the task into their own
hands!
By and large I think they use G&P. Guess and Pray that they don’t make a total ass of themselves. If they guess correctly they become a more valuable asset for the buyer. (That’s me) If they fail totally they take their commission and run, leaving behind a very bitter ex client. I have only had one broker who seemed to actually take an interest in me personally. Maybe that is because I donate 100% of my profits to charity and he wants to help.
I believe that the Wall Street Investment firms pick to line their pockets. I do not trust any of them.
I do not believe they are shooting blind. I believe they have a end result that they are aiming for, and my best interest is not a part of their plan. If it was, they would not continue to lie about the state of the economy, the solvency of the banking institutions etc, the reliability of the US dollar.
80% Gold through GoldXchange.US
15% Commodities
5% Misc
How are YOU deciding whether you’ll invest in
(1) domestic and foreign stocks,
Depends on the Real GDP and projected GDP. Most advanced countries have been posting GDP growth rates at or slightly above inflation. Read negligible growth.
(2) gold bullion and other precious metals,
The increase in Money supply is taking place at an unheard of pace. (That is what we hear)
During such periods, tangible assets and resources like food etc will hold value or become more expensive.
(3) energy and natural resources,
In case discussed above money (MM’s) will come in and go out of certain classes of commodities
At the moment Natural gas is at historical lows and could explode
(4) foreign currencies and/or (
Currencies are succeptible to major changes due to events beyond our control I would shun currency
5) bonds in 2010?
Returns on classical bonds are low and returns in junk bonds are high. I do not understand this market so I do not invest in this class of products
Question #2: How do you know how much of your money to invest in each area?
In current market it is tricky
I think, for the most part, mutual fund managers use research methods to determine which stocks and investments to buy. However, I think they can also get caught up in the buying crazes that accompany bubbles. Witness what happened in 2008-2009. Greed is a terrible thing.
I have gained a lot of insight on investments from your blogs and videos. I can not afford to squander my money I work too hard for it.I am trying to learn how to work smarter not harder. The number one thing I look for is if the product; if it is renewable.The next thing I do is research various companies that offer that product. I watch the markets and rate of return on the product. Chart and watch. I have a tendecy to avoid stocks that indicate extremes. I try to buy low and sell high just like anyone else that tries to hedge their bets with investments. What I find extremely difficult is exactlty when to buy and when to sell. Of course diversification of investments is a must during our current economic climate. I do not feel comfortable in foreign investments even though they are the emerging forces currently at work. I have a tendency to invest conservatively. I lost my shirt during 9/11 and recently again when the market hit over ten and then had hickups with the housing collaspe , the diminishing returns to the dollar and I have started to unvest in stocks in democratic socities only ,new product medical,drugs,and new technologies. Currently annuities are not paying enough interest so I have taken some money out of this area and have re-invested in a few muncipal bonds. I did this because of the various government pay outs for shovel ready projects. One thing I have learned is no market or currency is fool proof. The remainder I have invested in gold,silver and cooper. As far as wallstreet as long as the broker makes his commission they could care less. It still operates with the ole buds club principle.
I base each amount I fund by allocation class (i.e. fixed, growth, etc.) and alter the percentage of each; as retirement gets closer I get more conservative. I do not have the time to look up all of the information necessary (even if I had access to it) to recommend a specific investment, other than collectible items which I don’t always consider investments. Much data and other information is available, and in real time for professionals to analyze. I am more able to view and act on trends and leave the day-to-day work to the experts. Individual participants in the plans need to trust but also accept their own responsibility to verify facts. Anyone who is aware of insider trading, and other wrong-doing, has the duty to report it to law enforcement.
Many have lost sight of investing and have gone down the pit of greed and speculation. Most recognize greed as a real problem, but even experts trip up on the difference between investing and speculating. There is also a difference between saving and investing. Buying gold is saving capital. If speculation were not a consideration, it would not be so volatile.
Investing is vital to our economy. Most do not accept the responsibilty and sacrifice necessary for investment to succeed. The largest barriers are entitlements, monopoly and despotic government ruled by special interests instead of the people. Individuals have only to fear their own complacency.
Hi Larry,
You and associates are providing excellent insights into the current world markets and investment values to be derived therefrom. We are looking into investing, for the first time, into gold bullion and into foreign (Asian) investments (most likely the technology ones I saw such as Shanda, about which your colleague gave insight. Thanks for keeping us informed, Larry!
The real question is what constiutes a” Wall Street Pro”.My brokers have always left me broker ! I say go with your guts and how you feel after you have done your homework. As investors we get talked into to much, at the benefit of the broker or the house. Your initial gut reaction is true to your belief and usually better to follow. Brokers aren’t what they used to be in the 50’s and 60’sand 70’s. I think they truly cared about their clients well being.The brokers out of 90’s push what they are told to push. Who do you think that’s benefiting? Time and experience with the up and downs give knowledge. No one will watch your money the way you should watch it.!!
I rely mostly on instinct. History repeats itself, so the debasement of our currency and the prospect of serious inflation prompts me to invest in precious metals and other commodities for the long term.
I invest half in Gold as insurance. and the other half in energy
A few mutual funds are managed by experienced people (that is, managers who have successfully operated the fund for more than say; ten years). Look at Neuberg-Berman Genesis trust for one example. There one sees a steady, principled approach - with fairly low turnovers of their holdings, and a decent cash position at all times.
Most Mutuals, however, are forever “chasing the Golden Fleece,” and their 5 and 10 year results usually show it. Those mutuals operate like day traders on the market floor - not a good thing for the long term investor, as expenses (commissions) taxes, and inflation eats most of the money made, IF any.
All I can say is that I MADE 4% in 2009 primarily by ignoring the pundits (whose positions and predictions changed at least daily, if not more often). The net - net - net is probably about 1.5%, still not bad for 2009. On the other hand I missed the opportunity to buy gold at under $400! So I’m really not that bright after all, am I?
Hi Larry, I reckon the big brokers and managers still go by the old theories and play it safe (not GOLD safe!) they follow the predetermined rules of index funds and are too scared to go outside the box. While they should be allocating funds to gold and silver they instead risk it on the pityful American share market with all the smoke and mirrors that entails. I’m here in Australia so I have to admit that the help I need is discerning what happens in the USA and how it relates to us downunder. Even though we seem to be stronger in the economy down here, for strange reasons we still seem to take out lead from the USA markets. You’d think we could stand on our own feet by now. The sooner we, and the world, decouple from the States the better - it can only drag us dangerously into the pit into which the USA is heading. Thanks for your wonderful missives Larry - keep ‘em comin’. Think of us down in Oz from time to time!!
Some funds seem to get it right a good deal of the time & others just make a cut above the small person investing from home. I was told by a found manager once that you should never look for the top to sell & make money, all ways leave some upward movment for next person & never wait for the bottom to buy as thats to hard to pick. We are still in that found, as for myself some of what he said to us & a gut feeling but playing it slowly
My investments are being managed by the professionals at Dion Money Managment.
I gave up trying to manage my investments a few years ago, and I’m glad I did.
I do like to get your comments and advice to use as comparison and reference to what my managers are doing.
Thank You!
Have been a mostly successful investor for over 30 years, I do know that while market research is an important ingredient for brokers or money managers trying to decide whether to back a stock, the bottom line is their own annual profit.
Professional money managers each have their own unique strategy. While there will obviously be some similarities most have some unique twist. Depending on market conditions performance will vary over time.
As to minimizing risk and maximizing profits I have always found this to be impossible. While taking foolish risk is counterproductive. Great reward will never be accomplished without taking a higher level of risk.
How do you think mutual fund money managers and Wall Street brokers and pros make these all-important decisions?
From what I was able to glean on a quick search on the net, they use “hunch power” and experience, and have a not-so-bad success rate based on that.
Are they just guessing? Shooting blind? Or do they have tested, reliable ways to structure portfolios that truly do minimize your risk while maximizing profit potential?
The information I was able to gather on that was hazy.
I am invested in giving water away! made a quarter of a million in past 2 years.
also, have about 6 million Dinar (iraq) against its re introduction through IMF and FOREX/CBI
don’t invest in emotional managed stock market that Ignores the actual company, and responds to the investors emotional buys/sells responding to government reports.
Don’t buy gold, with the Executive order allowing confiscation hanging over the investment.
use my money to make money instead of giving my money to someone else to make money off of my money.
Don’t use banks-prefer credit unions.
Larry,
Like with all investments one must do due diligence before they make any type of investment. When it comes to Mutual Funds there are so many out there you must chose the fund that agrees with your own investment strategy. I belive that the Mutual Funds have their own investment personalities and have their own strategies that they follow and they have high power people that they go to for the information. With that said I think most Mutual Funds are caught in the high turn over game to enrich corporate compensation. As far as brokers they are just the house in a huge casino. They carry the knowlege but that knowlege is generally used against the players. Keep up the good work on your end. -G. Ward
I missed the question from last week: Question #1: How are YOU deciding whether you’ll invest in (1) domestic and foreign stocks, (2) gold bullion and other precious metals, (3) energy and natural resources, (4) foreign currencies and/or (5) bonds in 2010?
I’m allowing Jyske Bank, Denmark do my currency deciding for me. That’s their forte. At a return of 12%, who can argue? My experience over the last 10 years with them has been favorable until the global crash, but even with the global crash I still gained 100% over my total investment over 10 years. Unfortunately my gains were not as great as if I had withdrawn my gains before the crash, but I do not hold Jyske accountable for that.
Fidelity wins the Miss Managers contest. I think their plan is to make commissions for themselves. I don’t trust them anymore and have taken all of my money out of all of the funds THEY decided I should have my money in. I would recommend people put their money in a ROTH and dump the 401k/403b rip off. I didn’t have a choice, now there is one. I pay attention to Nilus Mattive , so far, so good there. Of course, I bought in at the bottom, so there really was no other place to go, but up. I also listen to what they are saying on Morning Star, TopStock Portfolio, and Motley Fool, as well as the Uncommon Wisdom team. I belong to the Million Dollar Contrarian Portfolio, but I think that was a mistake.
When 2 or 3 of them recommend the same thing I then do some more research. Basically, I am buying dividend paying stocks, companies that are globally positioned (the US is on its way out), and trying to diversify by sector, focusing more on the tangible rather than the intangible. Right now I think things are priced too high, so I am more careful about what I am purchasing.
I am based in the UK. So my base currency for assets is the Pound. I read what Larry and Sean were saying for the past year and put 20% into gold bullion, unallocated but through a registered London Bullion Dealer. Really easy to do here, and our government cannot confiscate gold holdings as once happened in USA. I also diversified some cash to USD holdings ,a couple of MLPs Sean recommended which have doubled since March purchase. My portfolio is biased towards oil and utilities and as the market has risen I have increased my holdings of the short ETF on S+P 500. I bought one of the “rare metals” stocks on a UW recommendation but it has been a dud so far - though not far underwater. Weiss bond trader Steve MacDonald put me on to the UK bond market when that was down last spring and I picked up some short maturity bonds then yielding 7%.
Some of your stuff, 401K’s and US payout loopholes, is of course no use to me, but the general rational advice is sound for investors world wide. Thanks.
I believe that fund managers will do an amount of research and the more conservative fund managers will invest based on the research. Others will feel the need to beat the market and will be prepared to take greater risks (ie with your money they have nothing to lose but reputation) and use gut or gambling instinct.
Regards
I look at the price/earnings ratio of the stock, the debt the company has and the charts on share price over five years. It is such an uncertain time that I beleive in the 1/3 rule. Cash, precious metals, commodities. Generally my rule is to invest 1% of total portfolio in an interesting stock. I like to have some speculation (10%).
Governments are not to be trusted, they have created the problems. We do not listen to CNN; rather we study independent newsletters.
Larry - i think these guys primarily look at income statements and read news about what the companies are doing. They probably need to have support staff providing research that can validate decisions. I also think to many decisions are made based on sales incentives and relationships with cronies.
My decisons for 2010 which I consider a very special and frightening year largely depend upon my fear of a world wide crash of a dimension unknown to date, beginning in the States and going round the world tsunami-like. There will be world wide panic! Paper money, stocks, derivatives, otcs, insurances, pensions all and everything will go down the drain, with ONE exception: bullion, which is money. That is why I invest mainly in metals (AG/AU) and put some of my money in mines and oil. And keep some cash of course.
No bonds!!, no currencies, nothing else. Speculative products will loose their value I think.
I agree that analysts and brokers have one only interest: bonuses. That is why they tell a lot of nonsens to get our money. But there is another overwhelming problem lurking in 2010: by what means the USA will defend their world empire, by war/s, by pressure, by hidden attacks (earthquake bombs/ionic bombs?). Sheer exageration? Will the USA accept the drift towards Asia? and a new world order which could take place in 2010, 2011 or 2012?
At 61 years, after losing all confidence in the market to protect my retirement, I moved two places. Physical holding precious metals and a banking policy through Mass Mutual. The banking policy provides guarantees of no more downside, and contractual growth that I have complete control of. I can now, with certainty, move toward 70% annual ROI with guarantees. I have liquidity, tax free withdraws, tax free retirement that’s predictable and certain, and tax free disbursement to heirs.
As to the stock market. I believe now, anyone who has their retirement in the market is in serious jeopardy. We have not seen the worst.
I am letting my security license lapse. I know to much how the majority of stocks are picked for the unsophisticated investor and why. I am awake and deeply troubled by the lack of education most Americans enjoy about their money, and how failed philosophies are being perpetuated.
Sorry Larry, but you asked. Twice.
1. I will not be investing in any domestic equities and have not been for some time now. I will instead focus my equities purchases in the BRIC economies. Equities represent about 15% in my portfolio.
2. This is where the action is and has been for my portfolio over the past 10 years. The holdings in the hard asset as well as the leveraged play in mining stocks represents about 45% in my portfolio.
3. There is about a 10% holding of energy equities and natueral resources.
4. No foreign currencies.
5. the balance of portfolio resides in cash.
My asset allocations are based on many hours of doing due diligence and being educated by a few good people that I listen to on Shortwave radio for the last 17 years.
I have three paid advisors including yourself, and Tony Sagami. You guys tell me what to do and I do it.
I do an extensive amount of reading on a regular basis. I lean heavily into precious metals, commondities and stocks in the Bric areas. I also follow Ron’ Wilson’s advice, but still have much to learn. I have been somewhat amazed at the degree that markets have fluctuated up and down. I have tended to avoid US stocks with few exceptions. Our governments fiscal policies are very unnerving to me and I sense that the middle class is being wiped out financially.
Thanks,
Frank
I believe that most Wall Street analysts, in recommending where to make investments for 2010, will first look at the overall economic growth projections for various countries for the year ahead. To this, they will add factors such as political risk, economic stability, currency strength, and GDP growth history. Once they have determined which countries offer the most economic growth potential for the coming year, they will attempt to identify the sectors of that country’s economy which will benefit the most. It is these sectors, in high GDP growth countries, that they will earmark for investment. Some of their investment recommendations will be for specific companies in identified high growth sectors, or ETF’s that target the same. Other investment recommendations will be for specific companies in the US, or in other countries, which are multinational, and feed into the sales/purchase cycles of the high growth counrties and their associated high growth sectors. Deciding how much to invest, and where, will be a function of one’s overall risk tolerance, and the relative weighting of the economic growth strength of the various countries and sectors analyzed. The biggest question for 2010 is whether the economic recession that has gripped the western world wll relent …or continue. Depending on how one answers that question will be a signifcant determinent in deciding where to invest.
MF managers are schedule/performance driven. Their compensation is predicated on their annual and quarterly performance against some arbitrary standard. I believe in order to survive, they used technical analysis, past stock performance, societal trends and what is the current herd psychology to determine their investment decisions. If they think other than near term or foreign investments their performance might be great five years out, but today they would be looking for a job! My take is that the dollar is in the tank and there are over two billion folks out there who are in the process of becoming middle class consumers. My investment decisions are predicated on an emerging new world.
I have been listening to and reading from various financial advisors like YOU. I have been mentally averaging what they have been saying and making my choices based on those averages. That way, I figure that I am benefiting from the experience of several very different financial views. Not everyone has been promoting Asian and Gold type investments, but enough have that they make sense right now. I only have time for four advisor websites at this point in time.
I think you should give me a list of brokers for China,etc
Thanks
Q1- Until the jobs situation improves (and the real numbers indicate such) my allocations are in low/no risk investments; T-bills, FDIC insured accounts, etc. I think China could be forming a bubble.
Q2- Yes, but since the FED, Wall Street, all governements, etc. have proven their untrustworthiness to be honest my options are limited. Another reason, I only have a small time left before retirement. Preservation is more important than profit at this stage of my time line to be able to recover from loses.
Bill C.
Hi Larry and Team:
Great work your doing. I encourage you onward. Making investment decisions for my clients and my family are based upon asset allocations that are periodically adjusted based upon the relative value/risk assumptions we make in the current and near term future. There is no such thing as long term investor in our vernacular.
I have tried investing in companies I believe in, using a sort of moral compass to guide me. While I may have felt good about the companies I invested in, I have often lost money. In more recent years I have relied on an investment advisor who has recommended diversity of asset allocation. Most of my investments are in mutual funds and although in theory the funds are managed by professionals who allegedly know what they are doing, I feel as if I am a cork afloat in an ocean and nobody can really guide the outcome of my journey towards retirement. Commodities have always frightened me because of the hihg risk. Most financial advisors seem to want to sell something they get a commission on.
I believe that professional traders have better and more up to date information than most everyday citizen can get as well as some tried and proven strategies for a given market.
#1. Allocations.
1. 10% options on indexes, 10% Canadian natural resources
2. 40% silver bullion, 25% gold bullion
3. 3% nuclear energy, 2% geothermal energy
4, 0%
5. 0%
Rest in cash
#2 Stay away from any long term investment in US dollars. Bullion is a major growth area since inflation is cooked in the books. All markets are being manipulated by the US government, the US Federal Reserve Bank, and large banks. Play the longer trends as paper money and investments denominated in paper money are demolished by inflation. Look what the US Fed has done to the value of the US dollar, basically worthless in less than 100 years. Also why pay taxes on gains that are not real but only the inflation of the dollar.
In response to your (2) questions, I follow the recommendations contained in your “Real Wealth Report” & Martin’s recommendations contained in his “Safe Money Report”.
I assume that many are cautious in recommending investments, have criteria they use that put them in a position to make judgments they feel are valid.but they have to warn that they could err. Then there are those who concerned primarily with making gains for themselves or their firm and are less concerned about the accuracy of their predictions.
Mostly, I have followed your recommendations on portfolio allocation in the last several months; i.e., 10-25% gold and gold stocks/funds; 25% China (International), and 25% natural resources/materials. My 25-40% “other” is mostly US stocks that derive a large portion of their revenue in international markets, small cap tech and fixed income.
I could not care less about how mutual fund money managers choose their stocks. Based upon last years results, they only care about beating their index to maximize their bonuses.
I know for sure that their decisions based on knowledge of politics, economy, logistic, technology, professionalism, even predictions, & many many more available today ‘resources’.
But they are just human being ( not G_ds), - it is why results are surprisingly unpredictable…
I generally (but with a few exceptions that I won’t burden you with) use fundamentals to select stocks, and technical analysis to determine entry and exit points. I have few long stock positions just now as I took profits a few weeks back. I keep about 70% in cash but use a lot of options, primarily put spreads (short) over the last year which has brought in premium and seldom resulted in assignment. Things could be changing tho so I am “sitting on hands” just now and doing “homework” to adjust my strategies based on market direction. I don’t get crazy with a lot of indicators but use 50, 150 and 200 day simple moving averages on a daily time frame. I feel there is much opportunity around the corner and continue to look closely at China, Brazil etc… as well as hard commodities, energy and gold along with a few select areas of the tech sector. I see this “correction” as possibly more than a “healthy” one. I feel panic plays a large part in some of these larger moves down, resulting from news etc, and there could be a spot of that heading our way. My approach is very simple but it has been working (knock on wood!). Staying calm and pragmatic is what I try to adhere to. Control the downside as the saying goes,.. I like to sleep at night.
I USED TO WORK WITH MR. GARY B., WHO TRADED A VARIETY OF COMMODITIES USING A SERIES OF STATISTICAL FORMULAE THAT HE GOT FROM A MATHEMATICS PROFESSOR. GARY DOWNLOADED THE APPROPRIATE FORMULA SET AND HAD HIS PERSONAL COMPUTER INPUT THE DATA SET THAT HE WAS USING. THEN, HIT THE CALCULATOR BUTTON AND THE COMPUTER WOULD DISPLAY HOW MUCH TO BUY, AT WHAT PRICE RANGE, AND AT WHAT LOCATION!!! HE USED IT SUCCESSFULLY TO TRADE CRUDE OIL AND VARIOUS GASOLINE, DIESEL, HEATING OIL GRADES FOR DELIVERY AT CERTAIN WHOLESALE TERMINALS LOCATED NEAR REFINERIES AND IMPORT TANKS AT SEAPORTS. HE WOULD INPUT HIS BEGINNING DATA, RUN THE CALCULATIONS AND THEN TRADE AS A DAY TRADER TO LOCK IN PROFITS. SOMETIMES THESE WERE HOURS, DAYS OR EVEN WEEKS APART, BUT THE COMPUTER CALCULATED THE BEST POSITIONS TO TAKE AND WHICH ONES TO AVOID ALTOGETHER. TOO BAD THE IRS DID NOT UNDERSTAND HIS BUSINESS MODEL. IT CAN BE DONE, YOU JUST ACCESS TO THE CORRECT AND TIMELY DATA SOURCES. THANKS. KEEP UP THE GREAT REPORTS1111
I have had some mutual funds suggested by my broker (I have a different one now) that have been real dogs!
I would hope that they study and have some system by which they accomplish their business but I wonder.
Now I have started reading, listening to you about growth in China and trying to educate myself in order to
make better choices. I feel that you are correct in pushing commodities but I like to hear about small to
mid caps also. Do you think the future will be more of a short holding period and then sell?
Larry: How do you think mutual fund money managers and Wall Street brokers and pros make these all-important decisions?
Al: Since the fund managers have a bundle of stocks to play with they don’t worry too much about your self preservation. As I’d noticed they always come first: Their company makes money on your money they get paid all on your lost money and they could care less about problems which they don’t want to have called worrying about your problems!
Larry: Are they just guessing? Shooting blind? Or do they have tested, reliable ways to structure portfolios that truly do minimize your risk while maximizing profit potential?
Al: They try to get lucky (except for a few good ones among them) as that is what they are taught in public schools these days: Don’t be afraid to make mistakes, make as many mistakes as you can then we’ll give you multiple choices so that you can hope to get lucky and pick-out the right answer to make somebody “Oh, so happy for you!” And if you are totally incompetent and stupid then we’ll suck the tax payers out of bailouts and bonuses for ‘just rewards’ to keep you happy as your investors already paid for all of it, anyway! A win-win situation, isn’t that so great?
And I never go by gut feeling. I go by ‘it’! The perky “Baristas” (alive and well American ladies) wear their skirts shorter the stock market goes through the roof and I invest! They start wearing long skirts again I reel in my winnings and use these for dividends and the long haul! They flaunt ‘it’ the economy is healthy and they feel ‘it’ before I do (it’s that better way of thinking that they have!), to give me the opportunity to make ‘it’ worth their wiles. But isn’t life simple?
If Mutual Fund Money Managers had “tested, reliable ways to structure portfolios that truly do minimize your risk while maximizing profit potential” we would only ever see investment performance reports with positive results. Obviously, this is not the case and the exponential growth in the number of mutual fund options has only made the arena of investing more complex. Seems like there is a Mutual Fund for almost everything under the sun except maybe sports teams…
Fact is, we are on our own to make the ultimate investment decisions and have live with the consequences. The sources of intelligence to make these decisions are vast and often conflicting. My opinion is investors lean towards the guidance that fits the individual’s perspectives, level of comfort/trust in the advisor and appetite for risk.
Personally, I read several advisors with Global perspective and invest based on the current economic facts and projections that make sense to me considering business, government direction/leadership and what the “reserve bank” equivalents are doing with the money. My risk appetite is moderate and I firmly believe compounding is the essence of investment growth and therefore invest on the basis of total returns.
Al Koppel -
What I intend to do is to keep a core of the investments in precious metals mainly gold and silver and some of it in daily commodities, some of the money to live to on, then of course the investments all comes back into this United States invested in DRIPS, (re-invested dividends) on American companies which are always the greatest on earth!
Al: “This is for investing, this is for us to live on, this is to keep you happy, and if you want to do some investing yourself, then this is for you to do tha with. Keep that gal happy and she’ll always be at your side, and you never but never take rights and choices from her or she’ll make you wish that you hadn’t! And that’s the biggest investment that you can make in this life or in any other! -Al Koppel.
I anticipate most mutual fund and money market managers invest in less volatile equities, and have hedges for protection. In addition, I anticipate they have both technical tools and extended research teams to provide data for decision-making. I do not believe they go into decisions blind. Now, that being said, the funds I have in my 401k (those I can select, but not otherwise manage as I do in my IRA) did not fall as much as my IRA in March 2009. However, I beat all of the funds for the year, doubling the % increase for my IRA of the combined funds for the 401k. So I have to call into question if their data is any better than what I can find in a relatively short period of time, and if their decision-making is based more on maintenance fees vs. real fund performance. (To be fair, the 401k is ahead of me by 4.5% YTD for 2010 . . . for now).
I have a long term investment horizon and do not change asset allocation very much. I do not buy individual securities, look for low fee or no fee funds with industry average sharp ratios, and then allocate 60% US large and small cap equities, 10% real estate, 10% commodities, 10% foreign stocks (my version of currencies), 10% US medium term bonds. I arrived at this mix after some lengthy discussion with an independent financial advisor (does not offer securities of any kind), and have stuck with it pretty much for the last 5 years. I do rebalance once in a while to keep the mix about the same.
As to professional money managers, they are literally not worth the money you pay them, and they are fundamentally conflicted. 85% of all money managers underperform their indexes before fees and expenses; even higher percentage after fees, expenses and taxes. On an after-tax basis (which is what I actually experience and no fund in the world reports on), managed funds undeperform the indexes. I feel fortunate if I can approach the indexes returns, even get within 50 bp of the indexes. Professional managers basically have to trade on inside information to get ahead. Its illegal, but they are under a lot of pressure to perform. So their methodology, for whatever else they say, is usually a large amount of picking up news fast and running with the herd. Of course, in a crisis, when they are supposed to be looking out for your assets and moving them to safety, they are unavailable by phone.
Larry, what’s your take on Gold & Silver over the next three month’s? Will there be a resumption of the upward move?
I have a professional manager pick my stocks and bonds with 62 stocks both foreign and domestic and then some bond funds, treasuries and about 4% cash (which I am uncomfortable with). The only gold play is BHP-Billiton and that is fairly minor. Stocks are mostly large cap os well managed companies.
I try to stick with investing in a variety of mutual funds, as I have been burned in the past investing with individual stocks. My general objective is to invest worldwide with emphasis on Asia-Pacific and natural resources and to avoid focusing on only US investments. When the crash of my bond fund (14.8%) seems imminent, I will likely transfer to more natural resources or gold. Since the positions of mutual funds constantly change, I’m not sure of all of the percentages of my investments in various catagories. I am not an expert investor by any means and would welcome suggestions. Since March of 2009, my bottom line increased by 67%. Below find my current investments by percentage:
GLD 6.4%
CWGIX 25,6%
AEPGX 22.7%
GDX 2.9%
CWBFX 14.8%
SLV 2.0%
FXI 3.9%
XME 8,0%
IGAAX 5.2%
NEWFX 5.1%
GHAAX 3.4%
Larry: As an energy services salesman, I travel throughout New York State to visit core businesses of every type. I get to know the people who run those businesses, from the high command down. When I conclude that a particular firm is sound, offers a basis product or service (local short-haul railroad, for example), pays a steady dividend and has a history of NEVER HAVING BOUGHT BACK ITS STOCK, I buy its stock from whichever seller offers that stock.
Pros use sophisticated tools to analyze percentages based on your age, requirements or risk, retirement age, etc.. My concern is that they do not suggest the best investments for their clients. What scares me is that so many got caught in the stock bubble and didn’t protect their clients. I would love to compare their recommendations to their own portfolios.
I am a trader, not an investor. I do not trust any company to remain stable over a long period of time without adequate baby-sitting, which I do not have time for.
I have a high tolerance for risk. Basically, I look at research done by others on a fairly regular basis, and when what they say aligns with what I believe to be true, I usually invest heavily. I have no problem having a single position be 100% of my portfolio. Right now I like Gold, Silver (especially), and Capital Assets (real estate bought at a good price).
Except for that year (2001) that I thought options were a good deal, I have generally done well. My best 6 week period ever was Nov-Dec 2008, where I made > +100% (primarily positions on ICO, PDS and EWZ).
Right now, I believe the entire market (not necessarily all stocks, mind you) is massively over-valued, and due for a painful correction. I just cannot understand why it hasn’t happened yet??? Where is all this money coming from, and can I have some too???
A grand overview:
Is it possible that the markets are primarily driven by greed? I believe this is the case. Greed is a subset of selfishness. If the whole world economy is driven by selfishness, what lasting hope remains? Spock once said, “The needs of many outweigh the needs of the few” - but the market does not act on this premise. Selfishness as a core attribute of positive action will one day fail completely. Perhaps the Bible prophet Ezekiel was right when he said, “Into the streets they will throw their very silver, and an abhorrent thing their own gold will become. Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to deliver them in the day of Jehovah’s fury” (Ezekiel 7:19).
I think the pros use various but often unproven strategies, some of which work at times and some of which do not. But, ultimately, the record shows that their average return has not been impressive by any means, especially taking into their fees. One has to keep up with information affecting investment decisions based on one’s financial conditions and needs with potential risk and reward in mind always, which means read and understand the rationale behind the recommendations and form one’s own opinion. Truly a time consuming endeavor, but with the technological advances, gathering necessary info has been made easier. Due to ever increasing complexity of world dynamics and financial conditions, there appears to be too much info for any one advisor to competently analyze and understand the macro and micro pictures affecting financial and investment decisions. Therefore, the emphasis should be placed on the advisors who concentrate on a particular industry or sector and season it with your own macro and micro understanding of what is really going on.
Packaged products designed to fit general investors such as mutual funds probably will harm most of the investors’ investment returns over the long run and and they will create a massive retirement problems for the average retirees; such investment advice and vehicles mostly help those who sell the product at the expense of the greater public. The funds need to be regulated to be simpler (easier for the pubic to understand) and less expensive for the benefit of the investing public who may be better off with less choices than more. In other words, the distinction between sophisticated investor and other investors should be made and let them play their own game with different rules. This will be hard to implement, but we need to protect the millions of investors who are being taken advantage by some in the financial community; unless the public is better protected, the society will ultimately pay the price. Aloha!
Hi Larry, It seam reasonable to assume they use clearly structured plans, but I have no idea what they would be. As an untrained amateur I’m just trying to build up reasonable diversification. I personally would like a plan but I struggle to see how it would be flexible to the world’s changing financial circumstances.
I agree with comment Edward Jones rep. which was a preacher, joined Ed. Jones and in 6 months thought he was an authority on investments. My experience with one lost me money on everything he suggested. I moved on. I now have bonds, (corporate and international), gold, money markets, large caps US companies involved in international business, and dividend paying US corporations
Dear Larry,
I live in Iran and doing future business of GOLD and COPPER.
I trust you and your colleage Sean Brodrick and usually invest on your believes.
Would be pleased to be updated about any future trends of commodity and metal’s market to chose the right position.
I was short on both Gold & Copper.
Shall I change my position now? or be waiting for higher USD index about 79.
Hope to have chance to meet you some day in some places in the world.
Yours/Mansor.
I expect each firm to have at least 20 people each analysing 10 to 20 stocks everyday.
However, during the high pressure trading period, most brokers would succumb to the herd behavior and start shooting from the hip. This behavior overrides their computer models, also skews others´ computer data feeds. If the situation alarms some politicians, we shall see some fun.
I am pulling out my IRA and paying the taxes( only 10% = tax rate today, who knows about tomarrow)
1/3 in and out of everbanks CD,s indexed in forign currencies
1/3 in and out of etf’s , or stocks , mainly commodity based or what ever is set up( I use volume on monthly basis as a major indicator and cot index)
1/6 +/-some in silver, platnium,gold. but considering lead, zinc, and copper.
1/6 +/_ cash
I am unattached to the banking industry, no debt, no mortages,
and unattached to the media and dissaprove of what our polaticans have done to America.
As far as the paper gold market, there are very few players in the short side commercials, just read dan norcini;s comments…the paper gold market, not to mention the silver are so very obviously manipulated…and what about the plunge protection team busy at work at the dow…these markets are volatile and scary and unpredictable…but the fundamentals of commodities still shine…watch out for the black boxes. Watch out for manipulated statistics from the gov. Go with what you believe in and do the research yourself…As Miyamoto Musashi said well so long ago, “You must research this well. You must have a mindset always in the training hall.”
And i would say, you must take advantage of JSMinset.
Thanks
I began as a fundamentalist…..evolved to a chartist…became an investolator and eventually have discovered what I call the DaVinci code of investing…it is a combination of looking at charts from a technical analysis point of view and identifying “pelicans,” “DaVinci’s,” “reverse DaVinci’s,” “new tupperware…..combining a look at earnings, RSI’s, MACD’s ADX’s and CMF’s…..I am quite sure that these terms are too homespun for sophisticated investors, but I worked for a mega-bank when the earath was green and didn’t agree with the mutual fund approach of owning everyone on the planet and hoping the market is strong for the next 30 years……not a true contrarian in style……but the goal is to make dough on every trade.
I have not decided how to allocate. I am interested in your ideas. Right now I have 50,000 in SAFE MONEY suggestions, some gold at Everbank, and some foreign CDs Australia and Norway, and a joint BRIC for three years. The rest is in cash.
I think there are some competent and honest advisors and some incompetent. I do not have one and do not know how to find one.
Larry, how about a little diversification……where are the comments from the woman? I enjoy investing, but unlike your male respondents there is more thinking than “gut” involved. I use a guideline of about 5% of the portfolio in a single stock, twice as much in an ETF or fund, more if there is a trend established as there is presently in natural resources and some of the emerging markets. I always consult the charts and history available before taking action. Instinct is nice, but information is prudent. In the final analysis a bit of luck in timing helps as the markets will do what they do and I think we all know what that is….they go up and they go down.
Larry, some time ago I read your article on Bernanke’s Secret Debt Solution to the Global Financial Crisis. That article set the stage for my financial direction due to your information in the article.
The potential for gold to appreciate in value due to the flood Federal Reserve Notes being printed, backed by nothing other than the so called good word of the Federal Reserve, therefore lessening our buying power and also paying back the country’s creditors in cheaper dollars which ultimately will bring about the fall of the dollar as the world’s prime currency.
1.Your advice about holding some gold, (my choice is one troy ounce coins) under my control, I believe is wise for me to do.
2. Your advice to Stay liquid - cash and short term money market funds (TBills)
3. Your advice - Get out and Stay out of the Stock Market - I had been in the stock market, mutual funds during my working years then blue chip stocks after retiring with a broker adviser. October 09, I got out of the stock market and now in cash, short term money market funds and some gold.
I believe your Uncommon Wisdom is sound, however for me after listening to my former broker, I will be making my own decisions regarding where I want to place my resources. Your advice in the Bernanke article, I regard as wise. Given my age of 75, gold and cash to buy some more, as I can, will be my course of action.
Best Wishes. Chuck
Answer #1: I don’t have a “macro-type” strategy to know whether I should invest in one or all of the areas suggested. Presently, I am overweighted in Canadian natural resources, precious metals
and precious metals equities.
Answer #2: Knowing the best weighting is always a problem for me. I never know until I look back a few months/years later! I feel I should have an Emerging Markets weighting, but how much is about right, 5% - 10%?
I have been totally retired for 9 years and have had the bulk of my money in Canadian Royalty Trusts. How lucky can you be? Yahoo!!!
Larry,
I am one of those many people out here that has never really invested before. Due to the current economic situation and the federal administration that is currently in place, I think that I have no choice but to start educating myself as to what is the best investment and I am basing a lot of my investing on your nemail newsletters. Some of the investments frighten me, but I am religiously investing in natural resources and gold bullion. For those of us who know from nothing, give us easy, yet diversified investments that are very conservative.
Thanks,
Patricia
Larry , I am going to change my portfolio to foreign stocks because o0f the way the economy is going , with people loosing their jobs and the price of everything going up.The economy is slow in the U.S. and it is fast in other parts of the world. For example other countries have converted to the metric system and the united states is still using the old system. The government in other countries probably pushed and encouraged for this system to change. Then the price of gold and silver advertised all over the world continues to rise from 750.00 to 1300.00 a steady rise but my pay check is not able to keep up with it. As for energy and natural resources their prices are rising to as well as foreign currencies and bonds but the value of the dollar bill continue to fall not keeping up with the economy maybe it would be cheaper to live in thoes other countries but if you can not know the value of your money you will get cheated every time.
and for question #2. It is not that hard to determine where to invest your money you put in the stocks with a steady rise . and how much you put in is determined by if you want to gain money or loose . I for one would invest about 25% in each stock so you know you are making a good profit all around and you cant go wrong.
These money managers, pros and wall street brokers have reliable test from past history of the economy it is a known fact. This is the only way they can make your portfolio great by minimizing the risk and maximizing your profit potential because when you make money they make money and they want to keep your business .If you portfolio is great, then you will encourage your friends to use this investor and his company.
Larry: I listen to Bloomberg, CNBC, and I read your e-mails, and must say that I agree with much of what you say. I beleive the national debt is insurmountable as long as the people in this Country stand with their hand out and our politicians “gratify” themselves by increasing the foreign aid. Just look at Detroit, Cleveland, and New York; then look at Hiroshima, and Nagasaki. Capitalism is pure freedom. Freedom to make wise decisions about our financial decisions and our future retirement and educational needs are ours to plan, not our neighbors to pay for in higher taxes. I firmly believe that the Wall Street pundits offer what they believe allows our way of life to continue on until such a point that greed destroys us in the legal system and professional field of “finanical instruments”. I really digest all the information within my own mind and look to common sense to direct my purchases. I really love your professional presentations with such detail as to the dollar and Gold.
I have used pros since 1984 with limited success. I took control Dec08 and went into emerging
markets, euro markets, China, gold and silver. 30% in Pimco that I understand is moving into
foreign bonds. I believe the dollar is dead and am not interested in any US stock.
Good Morning Larry,
I have been following your charts and write-ups regularly.
For 2010, my best picks on investments in that order will be (1) Silver (2) Platinum (3) Australian$
(4) Gold (5) Commodity Index (6) Auto Ancilliary Stocks in India.
Regards … Vickram
Good Morning Larry,
I have following your charts and write-ups regularly.
For 2010, my best picks on investments in that order will be (1) Silver (2) Platinum (3) Australian$
(4) Gold (5) Commodity Index (6) Auto Ancilliary Stocks in India.
Regards … Vickram
You want the truth, you can’t handle the truth. Ha! Ok Ok Once again my attempt at a feeble financial opinion.
Sometimes it’s not hard to lose sight of the big picture by getting lost in the details. Yes! Everybody does have something to sell. And, no we really can’t trust the numbers when very little has changed with respect checks and balance and common morality. So much coming from the news and all government’s numbers is just plain not true. The matrix of reliable financial residuals is mostly reduced to a statical probably. So what do we really know, and what is common knowledge:
The US and many other Governments have out of control spending and money printing. And, many officials don’t perceive or understand the financial and geo political projected results. Even those emerging countries with disciplined balance sheets are having difficulty navigating to safe ports.
So the largest transfer is wealth in the history of mankind with produce large opportunities for profit making for a few and complete financial destruction for the majority. One thing many agree on is the dollar will be devalued a great deal along with many other national currencies. A fast reduction or slow reduction will bring profit and loss opportunities. Those who have distain for US abundance will say we deserved it. And, many will look to China’s wealth and say they had an unfair advantage by a lack of currency adjustments. It’s not uncommon to pick on the hostess with the mostest. And her desert is not available on every menu. Anyway you look at it, we will have to move to a one-world currency to “reset” the financial system. I call this the big “R”. Most would like to believe that there is a preordained implementation plan. Ha! All national entities will want the big “R” wired to their financial advantage. I’m sure the WTO and WB have plans in place. But I doubt weather countries like China, Russia, and others with bulging balance sheets will agree to the terms. We could see how unified everybody is by looking at the last climate summit.
Ok! Ok! What implications does the big “R” hold for your stock portfolio? Fast or slow, countries will grab control of all physical assets within reach. Protectionism in key political sectors at first will result if the change is slow. International capital and credit markets will move from the international level to a national level. There will be a division of national interest based on this change. Current defense spending may identify the new alignment. Where does each country purchase their advanced aircraft? Mostly countries that are broke will want the new currency and forgiveness of past debts. Access to credit markets will become very national and political. The flow of essential goods and services will be painfully and slowly redefined. No country will be insulated from the possible social unrest to follow. A big question is: what industrial and economic base can survive the big “R”. Most likely, those with the most political clout, and those with essential means to restore and maintain a coherent social structure will survive. Many western companies could become bankrupt due to lack of capital funding. Defense spending will sky rocket. Shortages of food, water, and medical care will be the defining issue as to who maintains a national political structure. What does history show us from previous resets? And, what sectors are profitable? Moving from a closed society to an open society is generally profitable. And, moving from a open society to a closed society can be devastating. Twenty One Million people starved to death when Russia closed. And, in China, Sixty Five Million people starved to death. Escaping these changes from one country to another is gambling at best. If you’re going to relocate, do so now. Nationalism and a reversal of immigration polices will become more predominate. Will a one-world currency be successful in opening all nations to equal trade, and an open cultural shift? Change is upon us now. It’s no longer a distance childhood expectation. Best to settle in a community of high moral fabric and abundant natural resources. And remember, the educated communicate, negotiate, compromise, and have realistic expectations. We can expect capitalistic suppressed technologies and patens will be released and developed for the common good. Firstly the changes will be in the defense sectors. Large changes will happen in the US transportation sectors. The current gold prices are being suppressed until physical holdings are allocated to controlling invisible interest. Look for new energy sources to emerge and replace the current oil controlling interest. Anyway you look at it, all asset classes will be redistributed. The individual does not control, own, and hold what is expected.
The biggest lessons learned by all will include: You only keep what you give away. When we don’t give to others we steal from ourselves. And, the only thing we take from this life is the love and forgiveness we share with others.
“Martin” Thanks for the heads up on the current short. Hopefully I’ll react in a timely manner. And, thanks for your recent publications that aid in helping the common man be prepared for the changes.
DavyGene
How do you think mutual fund money managers and Wall Street brokers and pros make these all-important decisions? They are manipulated (whether knowingly or not). First, the true money movers and shakers, names we rarely hear about but that have been around for generations, start the game of chess with the insider information leaks, numbers and charts adjusted based on some “new model” then finally, whether “gut feeling” or based on charts (computer models, etc.), the heard mentality sets in. Ma and Pa’s money (OPM), is spread around en masse, those that set this up get really rich and others make some money. This game is not one month, year or even a decade, but life long. At some point, it is realized that the money is paper, the value overinflated, and the company is not worth what it is valued at. Then, some one has to pay for it all, Ma and Pa.
Gold for example, where is all this gold suddenly coming from? Who is making money by having all of us believe we must own it now? While I agree everyone should, not seven years ago, it was at about $250. The banks all had massive stores of gold, especially European banks. Banks lost money on the real estate market among other things, and poof, now gold is over $1,000. Who is putting the gold on the market, when did they aquire it and who is making the money selling now?
Are they just guessing? Shooting blind? Or do they have tested, reliable ways to structure portfolios that truly do minimize your risk while maximizing profit potential?
Many comments above offer good advice on diveristy. But anything could change in a heartbeat. Who anticipated 9/11? Are they placing any thought into doomsday scenarios? Thoughts on a US economy that is strictly rich and poor, more akin to a third world? How far out is someone planning? 1 year, 10 years? How active does the person want to be in the management of their money? How much are they willing to pay? What can they afford to lose? All of these and many more issues need to go into the structing of an individuals portfolio. The pros should be asking the individual these questions and then finding the right blend, based on hard data, not data provided to them. Only hard work and research will tell what are good investments. In this day and age, everything must be instant. That leads to more gut feelings and what worked in the past based on their experience and knowledge, which hopefully but not realistically, they are constantly updating. Without the knowledge, they are easier to manipulate and create the heard.
(1) domestic and foreign stocks
That an easy question - where can i invest with lowest risk of loss and maximize profits.
Note that in today environment being fluid with your investments allows one to move in and out of various investment classes. Example if the MSCI Emerging Market Index is starting to look bearish which would call for a move into EDZ (to me looks that way for the short term). When it bottoms or starts to recover then move to the EEM. “fluid”
(2) gold bullion and other precious metals,
I have been moving into gold and silver since the mid 1990 (the actual medals. Currently about 15% of portfolio, however, note did not invest that much has grown to that %. However, at certain times can move as much as 50% of portfolio into SLV, GLD and mining stocks, have lot of cash to make play here wihen it hits the lower supports and holds. (what happening in this mkt only happen maybe two time a year).
(3) energy and natural resources,
I do believe that energy cost and natural resources will rise in price in the long term. However, it is hard for me to follow the money in the energy sector. The charts and volumne do not work like the metals. I believe that I can do better in other places where the risk and rewards are easier to determine at the present time. Example the banking sector is a short for a while. Note there will be a time when I move to energy not yet - peak oil is here but demand is down.(for how long)?
foreign currencies and/or (5) bonds in 2010?
There are a lot of factor that play into the currencies with a lot of surprises going both ways. However, long term trend seem to remaining constant like the dollar and the US goverment creating money. Most of my plays in currencies are with metals and forgien stock. Bonds what a joke. In this crountry there is only one way interest rate can go and that is up. Buying bonds at the present is setting youself up for huge losses.(mid and long term) TIPS could be ok maybe. (but remember who set the rate here).
Question #2: How do you know how much of your money to invest in each area?
Sometimes all of it. Following the big money.
Larry, I like your information and your charts. Thank you for sharing. However, for me with all the bogus information the goverments around the world are putting out on sales, employment, GDP, etc…. it is hard to invest with any degree of confident based upon that data. My biggest problem is that I see problems or oppurunities and it takes the markets 6 month to a year to react. Example commerical RE in US. Check out the IYR and the SRS.
I follow current financial news including you insightful views.
I have allocated my funds as follows:
50% in fixed and bonds.
30 % in resouce stocks such as energy and miningand resource economies ie ETFs
10% in Asia.
5% in precious metals
5% in US companies with strong international presence.
Some of my decisions are based on instinct from time to time but within the parameters of the above.
My previous response to Larry’s question never got through his moderation process. I’ll try to do it shorter this time, hoping that he doesn’t throw this out just because he isn’t willing to publish ideas critical of his own.
I think fund advisers are just as much in the dark as the rest of us. I’ve studied economics for over 30 years around the edges of my engineering profession. I have NEVER seen evidence that technical forecasting or econometric models do a better job of guiding investors than wetting one’s finger and sticking it into the wind. On the other hand, there’s plenty of evidence that day traders, penny stock analysts and private investors who try to predict major market movements tend to die broke. Commodity traders go broke even quicker than the rest of us.
Wall street brokers and investment advice gurus seem to be the only folks who consistently make money in the markets. In my opinion, they thrive by taking their commissions up front and staying out of the markets on which they advise clients. At best, it’s the blind leading the blind. At worst, it’s an outright con game or Ponzi scheme.
Economic advice isn’t “free”. It can kill you. Having lost a bundle by following the advice of a prominent gold bug in 1982, I’m now leery of advisers who predict gold at $3,000 or $5,000 per ounce in the next few years. I’ve heard that story before, and it didn’t happen! Conditions that produce such outcomes seem likely to produce the collapse of many major world currencies and the demise of the world trading system. If that happens, then *nothing* is reliable.
So we’re mostly out of the stock and bond markets, with our retirement funds distributed across several short term bank CDs and money market funds. Our home is mortgage-free and we pay off our credit cards every month. And if the fires come, we live a good distance from urban centers, among neighbors whose marksmanship is just as good as my own.
Regards,
I enjoy your short video very much. Thanks. I actually follow your general guidance, cautiously.
25% of my portfolio is China, 25% junior minors and 25% gold and platinum, and 25% cash waiting to short US equities
larry, my point of view evolved from the 1970’s and early 1980’s. the only thing that slowed the increase in prices of gold,silver, and houses were volcher’s moves to raise interest rates paid to savers. he has belatedly been brought back. but the current fed chairman owns a townhouse in d.c. the moves to encourage saving have been supressed more so than they were in the 70’s. it required the money market account to induce citizens to hold dollars. that is now replaced with ETF’s. we need moneyto pay bills which keep mounting.
Hello Folks ,
The Subject of inflation or deflation in USA and Bangkok. The only thing I can see on the street is deflation last year gas went to a 1.40 it is now about 2.35 but cheaper than most countries . Of course housing is much cheaper . It seems everything is cheap here and th only reason I can come up with is noone has any money to buy things . I remember paying 16 dollars for a large pizza at pizza hut now it’s 10 dollars unlimited toppings . Look at burger king 1 dollar quarter pound burgers .
I just came back from Bangkok where I have lived 6 months out of the year for the past 15 years and it sure isn’t that cheap there anymore . Some cold beers at my favorite hangout used to be 70 baht they are now 145 baht . The dollar only buys 32 to one dollar now it used to give 42 a couple years ago . Pack of Marlboro used to be 40 baht now its 75 baht . Oh and check out the apartment prices these days we used to have a 4 bedroom 5 bath with maids quarters for 20,000 baht you can’t touch it for 80,0000 baht a month these days . Houseing is much cheaper in Colorado . Cars in the usa are rock bottom trying buying the same car in Thailand for that cheap of a price . Although I do always Miss my second home and wish i was back in the Buddist country with the longest ruling king on record and country that has never been colonized . All I can say it’s cheap in America but I wish I was working in Thailand even with the inflation . So Larry if you can drum a job for me doesn’t have to be alot get me outta here please .
All the best
Nice article Larry should get that guy over there sounds like a hard worker .
Larry,
You are always talking about gold; What about silver? I have a substantial poor man`s stake in physical silver bullion as a hedge against inflation. It is easier for me to aquire because of the price and no paper trail.
Am I going, somewhat, in the right direction? I would hate to think when the ship hits the sand my investment would go down with the ship!
Thanks, Mike
The answer to this should depend on one’s station in life. I am semi-retired and have decided to keep one year’s income in CD’s (Rainy Day Fund) so there is always something maturing every month. I keep this out of the following mix so as to not confuse its purpose. Then with the balance I target 10% in gold and precious metals, 45% stocks and 45% bonds.
With the stock portion I target 50/50 US and foreign mix with half in the Asia rim, BRIC as well as Canada and Australia with a emphasis on natural resources. Generally I target ETF’s for foreign stocks instead of picking individual companies. With the other half of my stock allocation, I target American utilities, energy companies and green technologies. With the bond portion I am targeting a 50/50 mix of US and foreign bonds with an emphasis in church bonds in the Bible Belt, TIPS, corporate bonds and foreign government bonds (BRIC).
This gives me some diversification but with an emphasis on contra-dollar investments. I have not ventured into futures and options yet since I have no experience in it and afraid of losing the nest egg.
I don’t know if this is the place to ask this but how do you thing the Statoil stock will do? And is there a long term way to hedge against the US $? I am in Canada and if the US goes down so will Canada.
Larry, We hear a lot about China but how about Brazil, India and Indonesia? Maybe even Vietnam and Iraq???? I’m guessing these last two will be explosive in the near future. I’ve had a lot of Vietnamese employees and have found them to have an excellent work ethic and according to Biblical prophesy, Iraq will become a world trade and finance center. Bill
Re how do mutual funds etc choose how to invest funds. i read an interesting book called Warrior Trading by Clifford Bennett who is a currency expert and runs a FX research house in Sydney. He says basically the big firms get all their ecoomists together an figure out what the main trends are for the ecomony and different sectors them they come up with a compromised consesus- a comittee decides. This is why they so often get it wrong since they settle for a consensus view that is influenced by the crowd. By taking a different and accurate view of likely outcomes for economies there is the potential for great REWARD.
Thanks Larry for your excellent work! Keep it up!
Larry,
I don’t know if another comment got through, so I’ll repeat it. The Obama regime is following the path pioneered by the Socialist govt of Roosevelt. Obama got elected, because the FED essentially stopped money circulation and the GDP dropped drastically. Bank reserves shot up. (See my blog post dated July 19, 2009 about the effect of ‘mark to market’ accounting). This happened on Sept 15, 2008 that converted a 4% McCain lead into a 5% Obama lead. The Obama regime can reduce price inflation by continuing to deflate by declaring banks bankrupt and replacing their assets by the currency they print. The result is that while the money supply is increasing fast, price inflation is being managed by the artificially induced deflation of bank assets. The dollar lost 95% of its value since Roosevelt. The story is that you can slowly increase the temperature of a frog in a pot and the animal will not notice that it is being boiled. The latest round of deflation has stopped the rise of gold.
VTY, Geezer Bela in Exile
Re how do I decide how to invest. Every person has there own personal finger print on how to invest etc it is unique. i primarily look at the major long term trends in the world and invest in short term for the long term. Trading houses have so much leverge that influences prices that the market is extremely volatile. So long term trends are China rising to become the biggest economy, this follows that natural resources will be in demand. Energy is running short. Soverign debt risk for european countries and mabey USA is in a big uptrend and will continue..
So I am long everything China is short-Coal, Iron ore,copper,gold, Oil. I am long Gold since it will go up in the long term (it might get down to 1000 an ounce can you handle that??)
I have been investing /trading for 9 years and tried just about eveything. What I have learned is the biggest issue for investing is your PSYCHOLOGY, and secondly MONEY MANAGEMENT are you fearful now as your gold investments go down -of cource you are, and so are 90% of all other investors/traders that are in the market since 90% of all mum and Dads loose to the other 5% of experienced effective investors /traders. Its a cruel hard world out there YOU have to be equiped to handle it or else get out while you can! However you can learn, Guys like Larry are very good but not infallinble if he is wrong about a strategy and you loose do not BLAME him its your investment make your own decisions and learn from your mistakes!! So now is the time to know your investing strategy learn to go against the fear and also learn to go against the greed at the top of the market that makes you buy when prices are high. Nothing has changed the long term trend for Gold is up. Also natural resources are headed up in the long term. Managing greed at the tops and fear at the bottoms is THE major issue (assuming you have the right money management in place so that you are not overleveraged)
Some of your recos in the January Real Wealth Report have fallen below the “stop.” If we don’t yet own these, should we buy them now?
Larry,
Just read your recent blog in which you advised that you are still bullish on Gold however we may see one or two months of poor performance. I have followed your forecasts on Gold and have done well. On a strictly technical basis and listening to your words of wisdom I also added to my Gold investments when it fell below its recent resistance levels. My question is, with the volatility that Gold has demonstated is a considerable correction in sight and should I consider reducing my position.
I usually peruse the perspectii, including what companies are invested and the percent. Frequently it seems as if a lot of the funds offered by my Roth firm and my 457k firm are invested in the same companies only in differing proportions. I look at the record to see what each fund has done since being in business and sometimes go back to previous years records. I try to watch Nightly Bus Rpt on PBS or listen to Market Watch on the radio. I sometimes have looked at who the fund managers are but that’s ridiculous since I know their record only as well as I know yours: NOT! So ultimately after all is said and done, I do the same as your other bloggers and go with my intuition/gut. Thus in 2008 I did not lose when the market went down because I finally listened to my intuitions urgings. However, in 2009, I also did not benefit from the market because my guidance is still saying Hold in a SAFE place. :>(}
“Many say this is a fictitious form of wealth, and a strategy that is doomed to create another crisis down the road, namely hyperinflation. I say, yes, there are risks to it. But for the most part I agree that it’s the only way out for the U.S. Inflate asset prices … create (or re-create) wealth via asset inflation … and then that wealth will go back into the economy, spurring entrepreneurship, new businesses, new technologies, and more.”
Larry, what are you talking about here? how can the way out come from printing money? how is wealth created this way?
all of our(joint) assete are currently invested in 1 U.S.Dollars In (CC’S).
The remaining balance is our real estate.Only property , primary residence.\
although prop values have dropped 40% from ‘05 we are still at 200% on original investment.Resale value only not including tax breaks (first 10 years of mortgage.The cash is only earning a measley 1.2% yeild in cd’ however.also with zero risk.compared to market or commodities.I lost 70% of my ira in 01 from bubble bursting and will never invest in market(stocks again).
However I am an advocate of commodities market Gold only and only if one has enough money to lose if same crashes as it did back in 79 fell from 800 an ounce. to 200.
Dear Mr Edelson, Almost immediately after I posted my response last night, I saw the article from 06Jan10 by Claus Vogt in the Weiss Moneyand Markets letter. I agree with Mr Vogt even if I don’t have all the expertise in researching all this stuff as y’all seem to. I believe it was Ben Franklin that said You can make all the people believe some of the time, Some of the people all of the time, but you can’t make all the people believe all the time. I am one of those that the more pushed I feel about certain views/infomation, the more suspicious I become. And You and Weiss all certianly push and push and push! nvm :>\]
Q1: I think the mutual fund managers for the most already have the companies in the portfolio and just continue to invest the dollars in those companies regardless of how those companies are doing.
Q2: I think they are then limited to those companies, so they are not even guessing. They are maintaining the status quo. They may believe in the fund or not, but there isn’t an interest in the investor at all.